CrimsonLine
Aug 21 2004, 06:44 AM
I wish I could remember what review it was in, I'd quote it verbatim. But I've read hundreds upon hundreds of Ebert reviews, and I read this one a long time ago. What he said surprised me, though, and thus has stuck with me.
In one of Roger Ebert's movie reviews, a while ago, he was commenting on the fact that the filmmakers had said their film doesn't glorify what is shown on screen, it just presents it. But Ebert said that because something is blown up to the size of the big screen, and because it's being done by fashionably coiffed and dressed movie stars, it does promote it, so matter what the filmmakers think.
I was blown away, because it didn't sound like something Ebert would say.
What do you all think about this idea?
Shantih
Aug 21 2004, 07:33 AM
I think that is a good argument in cases where films are sloppy in their handling of material. In other words, they set out to make a film about something but end up saying something completley different because the emphasis is elsewhere. But I'd hesitate to adopt that as a general rule because that would mean any film-maker who tries edgy, sensative material is doomed to be seen as exploitative and manipulative. Which I profoundly disagree with.
Now I remember this was the accusation Ebert initially levelled at Fight Club. Indeed, digging up his original review we find the quite damning opening:
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| "Fight Club" is the most frankly and cheerfully fascist big-star movie since "Death Wish," a celebration of violence in which the heroes write themselves a license to drink, smoke, screw and beat one another up. |
Which, of course, many of us disagreed with. Not sure whether Ebert has since revisited the film. I'd be interested if he has. Personally I don't think that's what the film is doing, and Brad Pitt's star status is used in a way which (I feel) is much more damning to the subject matter instead of a glorification of it.
The film which I currently thing does, in many ways, adhere to this view is Elephant. I know some people are very much in favour of its detached, measured and unjudgemental view but personally I found it as messy and hopelessly critical of modern culture as any angry right wing newspaper columnist.
Phil.
DanBuck
Aug 21 2004, 09:33 AM
I wonder if Ebert ever has the luxury of revisting a film. For time purposes alone.
Anders
Aug 21 2004, 06:51 PM
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| Which, of course, many of us disagreed with. Not sure whether Ebert has since revisited the film. I'd be interested if he has. |
I know that he has done Fight Club as one of the indepth cinema studies he undergoes every summer at the University of Colorado.
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| Because I've been doing this at Boulder for 30 years, the audience includes seasoned veterans. Not much eludes our collective mind and eye. We've looked at classics like "Citizen Kane," "Vertigo" and "The Third Man," modern masterpieces like "Raging Bull," "The Silence of the Lambs" and "Pulp Fiction," foreign landmarks like "La Dolce Vita" and "Persona," and contentious films like "Fight Club"--last year's selection, a film I remained convinced, at the end of the week, consisted of two brilliant acts and a broken ending. |
So, there ya go. Not much, but he has revisited it.
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