QUOTE(Peter T Chattaway @ Jan 12 2006, 12:38 AM) [snapback]97489[/snapback]
Mark wrote:
: . . . all I can really remember is DiCaprio's obnoxious "I'm king of the world!" (which certainly qualifies here).
It's not a great line, no, but I am not sure what makes it "obnoxious". The only person who could possibly hear him is that friend who is enjoying the moment with him.
: And, oh yeah, Kate Winslet naked.
Dude, there is simply no context in the world in which the words "worst ever" and "Kate Winslet naked" should EVER go together.
: And Kate Winslet flipping someone the bird. But that's not dialogue.
Dude, there's bird-flipping in all SORTS of movies. What makes THIS one stand out?
Dude, I'm thinking you misread my comments, since I never said the "bird flipping" or Winslet's, ahem, assets, were the movie's worst moments, only the few parts I could remember vividly. (Although I guess I do have a problem with the Hollywood-ishness of that whole nudie scene, and the portrayal of some great tragic romance between two characters who've known each other all of a few days. In fact - not to veer too far off-topic, which I fear has already happened by discussing
Titanic as a whole instead of merely its bad dialogue, but what the hey ... for all the heated discussion about whether the cowboys in
Brokeback Mountain, which I've not seen, really love each other or just want to get off together,
Titanic is one of the worst offenders for perpetuating the myth that great sex equals true love, right down to "old Rose's" recollection of "it was the most erotic moment I'd ever experienced" and the reaction shot of a hot-and-bothered Bill Paxton and Suzy Amis.)
As for the king of the world scene - it fit well with the overall dumbness of the interactions between Rose and Jack. I suppose it gained its "obnoxiousness" when Cameron flounced around the Oscar stage repeating it as if it
were Shakespeare.
QUOTE(Nick Alexander @ Jan 12 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]97497[/snapback]
He felt that if one were to grasp the immense horrors of the Titanic, you had to care for one or two characters.
Nick, you've captured the problem, for me anyway - I don't give a rat's rear about either character, and for that I blame Cameron. Obviously, I'm in the minority; for millions of satisfied Titanic viewers certainly do connect and care about Rose and Jack. To me, they are ciphers.
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He took all the detailed information he could get and found a story in which you can capture class warfare, every major room on the ship, images from early photos, dialogue from actual historical figures and the testimonies of survivors.
I'm all for fictionalized history, but other films have done this
so much better. Low dialogue and vulgarity doesn't bother me, when it's wrapped in a more intelligent package. Cameron did the dumbed-down, seventh-grade Masterpiece Theatre version of
Titanic, complete with snivelling villains and and performances straight from the arched-eyebrow school of drama. Frankly, I would have been much more interested in hearing the stories of the "low" passengers who perished, instead of a couple of pretty movie stars who get naked and steam up the windows.
But then, that version wouldn't have raked in the bucks.
QUOTE(gigi @ Jan 12 2006, 06:12 AM) [snapback]97499[/snapback]
Diss the script all you like (it's really not at all difficult) but Cameron knew exactly what he was doing and the bank proved him right. I agree with Nick, it suits the film.
Well, the title of the thread is "the absolute worst movie lines/dialogue ever," so I'm not sure what "the bank" has to do with it.
Matrix,
Star Wars and
X-Men were all box office hits, too, and they've all been mentioned in this thread.