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  1. Brief article here. OK, I know this site is supposed to be focused on Arts and Faith, but I do think there are all sorts of things that translate, affect, can be affected by, similar in nature, etc., to Christians and the arts. Personally, I think the government arts grant model has long been broken in a lot of areas. I don't know. Just thought I'd share. Joe
  2. Long time admirer of Rob Bell. He is an artist. I think he realizes that. Actually all pastors/preachers/teachers are artists. There is no such thing as delivering "just the facts". Even when a pastor tries to preach in such a way as to not "cloud" the message with emotion, that is an artistic decision. Joe
  3. Kind of somewhat related. Two NYT critics spar over Tharp's Come Fly Away Joe
  4. Thought dance should get some renewed attention/love here. Talented internationally acclaimed choreographer Sidi Larbi Cherkaoui. Worth checkin gout. Joe
  5. I think sometimes snobbery also can insinuate itself when we strive for something new or become dissatisfied with what we have or even just develop more sophisticated tastes. Like the NYT reviewer I mentioned earlier. At some point seeing the same (seemingly) thing over and over again makes it harder to appreciate the work as it is presented on its own terms. Or to expect something more of an artist who has risen through the ranks of the common only to be seen to take steps backwards. Like getting to the point that only top shelf brandy will do. Or even only a particular top shelf brandy at th
  6. That's interesting, especially from a critics POV. I wonder at what point a critic might even venture beyond the simple snobbery discussed here? For instance, the NYT reviewer of Parson's Dance Company's latest work when it first premiered about a year ago was quite... well... uncharitable. One of the NYT Cultural editors saw the show, but after reading the review was left wondering what it was that she didn't get. She saw the show, enjoyed it and then read the review and was left wondering if they saw the same show. Should the reviewer have been more charitable? How do you balance charitable
  7. Not sure how wide a definition of snobbery you want to pursue. I think there is also another kind of snob which is a bit more obsessive, but probably no less insecure—the "collector" who seeks mastery as identity. Or in contemporary terms of technology, needing to be identified as a "guru". I am not so convinced by the articulation of the nuances of "elitist". Seems to me to be called "elite" is not so negative a connotation as being called "Elitist". And "elite" seems best when it is conferred upon someone rather than someone trying to self-identify as "elite", either directly or through a
  8. It is amazing. While I understand that even this through a web browser is better than probably just about any picture I would take, i am disappointed I couldn't take my own pictures. Especially after much of the museum they had no problems with pictures. Ah, well. I do understand, including the detrimental affects of many cameras as well. No less disappointed that I couldn't have my own pics. This is amazing, all the same. Joe
  9. I'm slow. I have to look at art for a long time. I've always envied people who could "get things" quickly. I always have to watch a movie at least twice, listen to an album or a song over and over, look at a piece of art over and over, even with choreography (which is where I spend most of my time) I have to chew and digest a long time over several viewings, before I can really articulate the sense of what I see. My initial reaction was very vivid imagery. It's kind of hyper-realistic (although I am probably using that term incorrectly) in the sense that it is realistic, but (usually, but n
  10. I sit here and see what Giacometti's Walking Man was recently sold for. As artists we often discuss and present how arts real value has no dollar amount. Yet there we are. Someone was obviously willing to put a dollar amount on that piece. But what does that dollar amount actually measure? Both the NEA with all their recent studies and The Americans for the arts with their recent Arts Index both bemoan the status of arts support and funding. But really, who is benefiting from Shen Wei's grant of $500,000? While i was working for Pilobolus, shortly after their appearance on the Oscars and
  11. What? An artist that's contradictory? That's unheard of! I imagine the prof, thinking probably exactly like you, (if I were him or her) pulled out the only parts worth keeping? Maybe? How do the chapters read that were excerpted? Joe
  12. A link to some excerpts from Tolstoy's What is Art? for anyone interested in sampling. Joe
  13. I would also suggest that studying this from a strictly visual art history perspective is only part of the story. Architecture is another area where the philosophical debates and battles rage on. Just ask Eisenman and Krier. I did miss the issue of representational art in my attempt at a summary of issues, although it is implied. As I mentioned earlier, I don't understand why the proponents of representational forms seem to have no issue with music. Or maybe they do and just don't talk about it. As I alluded to earlier, I also think some of the discussion bleeds into or from the problem
  14. Well, it keeps running around my brain so I think I'll take a stab at it all the same. There really are several issues that, while they do affect each other, aren't necessarily exclusive to each other and conflating them doesn't really help. There is the Art economic machine, which from a NYC perspective where it originated and is still deeply entrenched, does attempt to hold sway. The most grievous aspect that many in the art world share with the OP's referenced website is it's huge focus on money and money as the focus of success. The only problem with complaining about this is that it
  15. I fund this little talk by Suzi Gablik. Worth a listen to if you have the time. The talk itself is about 45 minutes and there are about 45 minutes of Q&A afterward that is decent enough if you can ascertain the question. One quote from her I like is actually her quoting Warhol: "With its one sided emphasis on individualism, modernism had managed to destroy the social self. Conditioned to live in their own world, artists often found themselves, as Andy Warhol once put it, making things for people they don't need". Joe
  16. Or her mother's twenty+ years as a dancer. I really stacked the deck against me, here. Joe
  17. I remember coming across "The Yellow Sound" in my readings, that's about all I can remember. Plato was all about those universals actually existing somewhere. I don't think his view of material/immaterial coincides entirely with modern ideas. That is the point my friend was making. I think he is pretty spot on. I have not applied to any grad school. Life keeps getting in the way! I was touring with Pilobolus for four years, getting my daughter through college (she's out now) but now working on what she "wants to do with her life". I just dropped her off at the airport this morning to go
  18. The first sentence is true enough. However, not all who employed modernist techniques and processes were adherents of Modernist philosophies. What I do like about almost all of the abstract artists is the explicitness that there is more than the material. This more difficult to overcome in realist artists, IMHO, because they start to become obsessed with technique and level of realism. Not all. The ones who don't get bogged down with that do understand there is more to the flower they are painting than the flower they are painting. As for "Thus, I’d suggest that Picasso’s 1938 Mother and So
  19. I've only read the "What is art?" excerpts I've found on the web. Good stuff. The whole music connection is what got me fascinated with Bauhaus and I believe why I was so cued in to Klee. Many theatrical lighting designers think in terms of creating a series of pictures. I've always taken a musical approach since I am a musician. To me, theatre is rarely static, even if geographically so. The lighting for me always as to breathe. And I remember being told to study sax and horn players if I wanted to be a better guitarist. OK, WAAYY OT. Sorry about that. Carry on! Joe
  20. I know this sounds nerdy, but I think I would have enjoyed you prof's class! I still think if I go back to school I am going to study art history. As for Kandinsky, right. I do know and understand that (although probably not as much as you, much less your professor). I believe his beliefs are what got him booted out of Bauhaus, IIRC. If I said his beliefs were a "reaction to Enlightenment", then I mis-spoke. But I do still stick to the idea that his mysticism accepts and relies on the material/immaterial division built up in the Enlightenment and that objectivity and subjectivity are divisi
  21. While I don't argue that Cezanne was somehow obsessed with consumerism, but that consumerism has found its birth in Modernity is hard to discount. And since Cezanne lived off his father's wealth, he was probably least concerned with his work being commodified. Although, he does somewhat typify the isolated individual that Modern Art finds appealing, someone removed and misunderstood. My point (and I do have one!) is not so much that the chain begins with Cezanne, only that he was part of the chain. But Cezanne is important in the course of Modern Art. Realism is concerned with depicting thi
  22. I don't know about his essay, but this one I found very intriguing: horror-vacui Joe
  23. As long as the colourful expression is actually conveying a point and not obfuscating one. Well, yes, I have read many of those artists and, no, they did not all understand themselves as embodying Enlightenment principles. That's a huge generalization. I certainly did not say the necessarily understood themselves to be embodying Enlightenment principles, although I doubt any of them would find that objectionable. But, take Kandinsky for instance. his whole position in _Concerning the Spiritual in Art_, while condemning materialisms insufficiency to provide answers, accepts the ma
  24. Brief attempt 2. While it would be easy to discount the OP quoted website as a frustrated malcontent who either isn't getting the notoriety (or money) he feels entitled to since he is pursuing a genre that might require a high degree of discipline, either directly or as preference. And while this may be true enough, the discussion concerning the machine is not new. The debate still rages as to whether Warhol's art was the works he produced and hangs on walls versus how he played the system. Dada was partially parodic response to the people who proclaimed what is and isn't Art. Christo's art
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