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  1. It's very much in line with a serialized comic in general. A mortal like Batman, in particular, simply has an earlier expiration date than the problems with his world. Also, solving the problem isn't going to happen much when there's money to be made in making more of them. On a lighter note:
  2. **spoilers throughout, probably* If you're talking about TDKR as an event, no doubt, but as a film? I doubt it, and don't see why it should be. While I might like some sort of proactive response from the common Gothamite, I don't know that this is it, though. It seems like the city, at the beginning of the film, was pretty deep in the process of transforming itself, but not based on Batman as a symbol of hope, but Dent, before it was so rudely cut off from forces largely on the outside. I see the cops as representing the people, but at the same time, I see the criticism that it would be better if more of them left their homes to join, but I don't find that critical. Still, there's something to be said of self-preservation and recognizing that an army might actually be a bit too much for you to take on in such an overt way. I would have preferred him showing the citizens plotting something much sneakier than joining "the infantry", of which Batman is decidedly a general. But, like any city, crime will likely remain a factor following this film (I'm sure to a significantly elevated degree following a mass exodus from the local prison. As an aside, how many major first-world cities keep such a large-scale prison facility within their city limits? They might want to go with something offsite or at least like Rikers Island for the future). That's not fundamentally anyone's failure. Because they were already on something approaching the right path before, I have little doubt at the end of the film that Batman will be a symbol to the people. I still don't know that many of them are going to personally physically challenge a very serious threat on the scale that a summer blockbuster is going to depict - I doubt many of us would, but I think they are of a mindset that isn't so afraid of crimes that actually do occur in a normal city. One should also note that working to fund and train people on the job to protect and serve the public is generally the model cities actually use to that end, and it's not a bad one. I much prefer it to untrained floundering yahoos playing hero. Was he from Gotham? At any rate, I'm not thinking he was even acting out of fear. He's working under the belief that if he lets those people across, then a lot of people, and maybe them included, will certainly die. The military are no doubt under orders at this point to not allow an exodus. As to my question on the ending .
  3. Just got back from seeing the film, and I rather loved it. You might expect that of a guy with a Joker avatar. I thought it was interesting that JGL is operating off-duty as a detective for much of the film. The badge doesn't seem to suit him anyway.
  4. I still haven't seen the film (I will see it before this weekend is out), but I would assume, if the ranks swell after the challenge in an otherwise unexplained way (and it sounds like they do), that a significant number of them are Gothamites responding to Bane's call.
  5. Bane is just the leader, correct? Who are those marching with him? Either way, it can certainly be seen as a war-like aggression.
  6. Just one thing: law enforcement are technically civilians who are committed to protecting and serving the public. I'd like to think it's more than just a job, that it's an honorable mission. However, since Gotham is essentially at civil war, it's fair to not consider him one (and there's certainly some who would deny that law enforcement are civilians anyway).
  7. I tend to be forgiving of franchises I love, but for me, that question is kind of like asking if "The Empire Strikes Back" is still my favorite movie even though the evil empire is ultimately brought to its knees by marketable teddy bears, or if the Godfather 2 still holds up after the cinematic abortion that was #3. That said, I'd be interested to hear SDG's response.
  8. I hear what you're saying, but at the same time, I could see some omissions as grating on an individual to the extent that it strains believability to the individual wherever it is. I once had a conversation with someone that was bothered by the physics of Wall-E (seriously, physics), and that was his big problem with it. All this is to say, people are particular and at times strange in their demands for what must be included, too. If everyone the artist depicts is running and cowering, it's not hard to see why one might think that's the way the movie sees people generally. I could see that, potentially, as being a roadblock to enjoying of these sorts of movies. FWIW, I always read it this way. I particularly loved that the Joker lost with the group that one would expect selfishness from. I don't think Batman's assertion is quite correct, but I think it's true to his character. He wants to believe the best in people, but I think he lives in a place akin to Sodom, where righteousness actually is scarce (or, at least, the people are oppressed to total despair and submission by the unrighteous to the point that it might appear that way). With that in mind: I don't know that it should have - not completely. I don't mind it remaining open to debate whether or not he did it all for nothing. My own question wouldn't be so much "Is Gotham worth saving?" (which strikes me as arrogant for a fellow human to ask of other people). "Can Gotham be transformed by grace and a glimmer of hope?" The answer to the last question, I believe for a person asking of other people, affirmative whether that is ultimately what happens or not (or, as seems to be the case, remains unanswered). At least, that's how I'd want my heroes to think. Of course, like Nicholas, I need to see the film to see if I notice anything to any of these ends.
  9. I can understand where what the filmmaker did would put such an omission in sharp relief. My argument is simply that such an omission always flies in the face of reality, whether the director intends to address the question directly or not. Experience suggests people won't all act that way in the face of crisis. Wait - so is it a question the third film is interested in answering at all? It answered it to a large degree with the boat scene in the last movie - is it possible that Nolan is the sort of filmmaker that just moves on to other questions rather than creating something more unified? If so, that's of course a flaw in itself - one that would make the filmmaker more suitable for single films rather than trilogies. I can see where it stuck out with you.
  10. Reading through some reviews, it seems that Gordon-Levitt's character may be one to watch to that end as well.
  11. Yet, I still think that in such a situation, some of us regular people might just try to do something about it. They may (likely will) get squashed, but I doubt the whole population would shrink back, even if they have a few allies who are a better match for the invaders, especially given the scale of the invasion. I need to see TDKR.
  12. True, but there's still an issue with a citizenry who aren't willing to do anything to protect others, only running and hiding which is counter to the wider range of real world human response to crises. I'm addressing a problem (a minor one in my view, though) that's larger than the questions a film chooses to impose on itself. (I loved "The Avengers", btw, and the Nolan Batman films I've seen so far, so I'm not making any attempt to dig at Marvel as such)
  13. Sounds like an issue that's pretty pervasive in the genre, really. I don't recall many (any?) ordinary civilians respond aggressively against the aliens in "The Avengers", either. There's a lot of screaming and running in several directions on the citizenry's part in almost all of these movies while the costumed heroes earn their stripes. I can't say it's ever bothered me much - perhaps I see myself more in the fleeing folks than in the "Let's Roll" civilian heroes on Flight 93, though I'd really like to think I'd be the latter if the situation called for it. But, it's an interesting angle to think about, and certainly a way I think the genre could be further improved (but they'd have to be careful with that as well - why do we even need the costumed guy?).
  14. Good article, thanks. I'm of the opinion that objectivity is theoretically possible, and something to be pursued rather than just dismissal and praise on a whim. I don't think something is good or bad based on how much I, you, or anyone else likes it. Practically I'm not sure what a more objective approach looks like, though. I just know that I try.
  15. Knowing Whedon's previous work, I should have known Agent Coulson would die, and at that moment, but I didn't.
  16. Is this Chris's new thing now? Someone dies, so let's cover the most obvious song of theirs as a piano ballad? (He did this with Amy Winehouse too)
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    I'm surprised that the conversion would be substandard, but the "cardboard cutout" thing matches the characters in that film so well.
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    Blue Like Jazz (2012)

    Ted Baehr apparently doesn't think too much of it, because Jesus is a Republican, duh!, which means I'd probably be inclined to at least like it. I just read the book last week, which didn't tell me a lot about what to expect from a film adaptation.
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    This happens to me with too many albums to list, but for me, it's generally true of shorter works (40 ish minutes) than albums that use the entire CD medium plus. So, yeah, pretty much all of Radiohead's albums except Pablo Honey can do that to me. Just about all Dylan albums, too. I may be swept up in a single disc of a double album, but I generally don't want to listen to the whole front to back in one sitting. (Dylan's Blonde on Blonde may be an exception, though)
  20. I don't know. I've been to churches that really did seem like glorified fronts for the Republican party. I don't think I could take those places of worship at this point in my life. Also, though I love my church (which seems relatively moderate to me) there are a few respected members who will needle their politics into any conversation in an abrasive, condescending way. Also, I might scream at the next person who dismisses evolutionary theory by being a complete ignoramus about the theory. That person may even ultimately be my father-in-law.
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    Adele - 21

    No, there are 6 albums yet ahead of it.
  22. I'm not trying to comment on the quality so much (although that analogy works somewhat, too), but that it seems like a sharp contrast with most of the others.
  23. Celine does seem to be the odd one out there as it stands right now, sure. As for "Armageddon", well, it's pretty alright, but it looks out of place next to Bergman and Kurosawa.
  24. Jesus Freak book : 33 1/3 Series "Armageddon" : The Criterion Collection ?
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