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ALIEN SEX PARTY (DVD Coming Nov 18/03) (2003)

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Cast List: Joe Smith Tina Carlucci Adam Sarner Dean Haspiel

Director : Paul Yates

Formats : DVD

Web Link : http://www.videomatica.bc.ca/system/getmov...ie.asp?id=15008

'Twas the night before Christmas and all through an adult video store,

everyone is stirring, including dancing security guards, aspiring porn

starlets, Star Trek geeks, and even the musical talent of Moby, who is the

executive producer of this ultra-quirky comedy.

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Persona   

Who was that dope that called him a "Christian" on the music boards? wink.gif

-s.

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Thom   

Who was that dope that called him a "Christian" on the music boards? wink.gif

-s.

Oh man, I wish I could remember....ugh!

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Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute...

Yeah, some dope said he was a "christian"... maybe because that's what he professes. Okay, he likes a little sex. Who doesn't? He's had a long journey, and he's used his brain and his heart, and come to the conclusion that Jesus is the reason for life. It makes me sick when I see people judging one another when we're all people with mistakes and faults. We're failing people that God loves.

How dare you people insult this man's faith? It's his own journey, not yours. Let God decide alright?

Me personally when I see disgusting posts like this, I feel so tired. Really tired. I want the Christ of Christianity, but not the brainwashing North Amerikan ethnocentric cult. I'll leave that behind for those unwilling to walk the path alone.

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Persona   

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute...  

Yeah, some dope said he was a \"christian\"... maybe because that's what he professes.  Okay, he likes a little sex.  Who doesn't?  He's had a long journey, and he's used his brain and his heart, and come to the conclusion that Jesus is the reason for life.  It makes me sick when I see people judging one another when we're all people with mistakes and faults.  We're failing people that God loves.  

How dare you people insult this man's faith?  It's his own journey, not yours.  Let God decide alright?  

Me personally when I see disgusting posts like this, I feel so tired.  Really tired.  I want the Christ of Christianity, but not the brainwashing North Amerikan ethnocentric cult.  I'll leave that behind for those unwilling to walk the path alone.

Hi dropper.

That was a joke, notice the wink. wink.gif

I was the "dope..."

I was referring to myself as a "dope," teasing myself the same way i love to tease all the other bad boys and girls around here. In a previous thread on the music boards i talked about Moby as one of my favorite Christian artists. And the conversation, which i wish i could have carried on a little further, went into whether he actually lived the life a Christian leads, or merely professes to be a Christian.

Regardless of what he professes, if some of his actions are in direct opposition to a faith that he says he has, he leaves himself open to be thought of as a bit hypocritical, as many of us do from time to time. Only, with someone who appears so often in the spotlight, his hypocrisy will be seen by many more people.

His music definitely is bad enough to qualify him as a Christian artist.

Man i wish i had time to defend his tunes a little better than this, but i'm rushed today.

Refer to old thread here.

And for all involved, this is what i originally said:

I first saw Moby at the Metro in chicago about three weeks before "Play" took off and made him Mr. Electronica supreme Nemero Uno Top Dog. That particular disc was amazing on several levels, the first being that it's exposure was HUGE and everywhere. I've heard that every song on the project was licensed for a commercial or a movie, and countless Nike adds and film scores later i think i believe that statement to be true.

By the time i saw Moby a year later fronting Area One, i had five or six of his recordings and i was in the 2nd row at the outdoor event, loving the huge lights and sound, feeling at one with the crowd and singing out what i felt were very spiritual songs. It's not necessarily the mixture of animal rights activism, veganism and Christianity in his liner notes that make me feel the spirituality of his songs, but it's the way his songs in themselves are constructed.

Moby is the KING of taking old gospel recordings, sampling them for the words alone, pulling them out of their context and bringing new light to beats that he creates. The words in themselves then become the focus, and they are beautiful as a part of the human experience in itself rather than just the faith of the singers on the black gospel vinyl records they were pulled from. Outside of the original "Christian" setting, the words go from exclusionist in a church meeting to inclusionist in a rock concert, and the phrases that are thrown out there have just enough light and salt still intact to draw a seeker friendly crowd that's looking to party in the name of spiritualism. Songs like "Find my Baby" and "Why does my heart feel so bad" are like David in the Psalms, looking for answers and hoping to find them from above.

I guess i'm just thinking aloud... I've been contemplating Moby's tactics for a few weeks now as i bought "18" at the beginning of June and it's been in constant rotation in the car. I think this CD has summed up everything about Moby's style and i think it's perhaps his greatest recording ever. Yes, better than "Play." Yes, better than his self-titled recording from the early 90s. I think he's finally tapped into what he does well, and he has done it with more power than ever before on the recent recording.

The music comes from three basic areas: 1. Moby singing (never the best of the three areas, but with the recent hit "We are all made of stars," he proves that he can get on the charts and in the commercials with his own voice.) 2. The typical Moby way of the past few records. That is, to find an old black gospel recording that he likes, buy out the original two-inch tape masters, wander thru them for hours -- probably days, weeks at a time -- and choose what soloists he'd like to sample and pull into his own electronica. On "18" this is truly his forte. He is at the height of his success in relaying mood and music in this format. This is also his greatest moment in regard to which samples he's chosen, how and where he's placed them and why. 3. Female vocalists. I believe Sin

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Thom   

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute...  

Yeah, some dope said he was a \"christian\"... maybe because that's what he professes.  Okay, he likes a little sex.  Who doesn't?  He's had a long journey, and he's used his brain and his heart, and come to the conclusion that Jesus is the reason for life.  It makes me sick when I see people judging one another when we're all people with mistakes and faults.  We're failing people that God loves.  

How dare you people insult this man's faith?  It's his own journey, not yours.  Let God decide alright?  

Me personally when I see disgusting posts like this, I feel so tired.  Really tired.  I want the Christ of Christianity, but not the brainwashing North Amerikan ethnocentric cult.  I'll leave that behind for those unwilling to walk the path alone.

As Stef previously noted, this was a joke, a bit of ribbing between friends. Even so I believe his faith was far from being insulted and I am sorry you find this

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Ron Reed   
Why is it so important to us to make this claim?  Why is it so necessary to say,

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Ron wrote:

: 1) It legitimizes my faith. If someone famous, or smart, or talented, or

: well-thought-of believes what I believe, maybe I'm not such a goofball to

: believe it. For example, if Bono is a Christian, and everybody thinks

: Bono is cool, then maybe they'll think I'm cool. . . .

: 4) If I'm going to spend a few bucks on a CD or novel, buying stuff

: created by Christians helps them keep doing what they do. (See

: (M)Leary's comments about financial support of Christian film makers,

: etc in the "Will Christians Make Better Films" thread.)

Of course, these are two contradictory impulses -- the former paragraph assumes that the artist is already popular, and can therefore be appropriated as 'a Christian like me', whereas the latter paragraph isn't really relevant when the guy's got a few best-selling albums and every track on one of those albums has been licensed for commercials and movies etc.

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Thom   

You are definitely right about there being several reasons why Christians are interested in a celebrity

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