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Link to the thread on Spider-Man 3 (2007).

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Sony may bite on Spidey spinoff

With Heath Ledger's villainous Joker drawing attention and boxoffice dollars, Sony is moving forward with "Venom," a potential "Spider-Man" spinoff based on a bad guy.

The studio is developing the project, based on the gooey nemesis who appeared in "Spider-Man 3" and is hoping the character could serve as an antidote to the aging "Spider-Man" franchise in the way that Fox has used Wolverine to add longevity to its "X-Men" franchise.

Hollywood Reporter, July 31

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Link to the thread on Spider-Man 3 (2007).

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Sony may bite on Spidey spinoff

With Heath Ledger's villainous Joker drawing attention and boxoffice dollars, Sony is moving forward with "Venom," a potential "Spider-Man" spinoff based on a bad guy.

The studio is developing the project, based on the gooey nemesis who appeared in "Spider-Man 3" and is hoping the character could serve as an antidote to the aging "Spider-Man" franchise in the way that Fox has used Wolverine to add longevity to its "X-Men" franchise.

Hollywood Reporter, July 31

Hm, Venom wasn't treated very well in the last film. I'm involved with some Spider-man franchise stuff at the moment so I try to keep up on what fans of the comic are saying about other-media spinoffs. I guess Venom fans weren't at all pleased with Sam Raimi's take on the character or his fate in the movie.

So this is a bit of an exciting turn. No one had much hope for Venom in future Spider-man movies, but his own spinoff is pretty good, if it happens. I wouldn't mind seeing Topher Grace reprise the role either.

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But didn't Venom, like, DIE at the end of Spider-Man 3? I am wondering how they could spin this off into its own franchise. Maybe Venom has a cousin, and there is some OTHER piece of black goo just waiting to fall out of the sky ...

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Topher Grace's character and the goo that made his costume certainly died... However, there was that bit that Dr. Connors has in his lab.

IMO, this just won't work. What are you going to have--a bad guy v. a badder guy (Carnage)? None of this anti-hero crap, please.

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Topher Grace's character and the goo that made his costume certainly died... However, there was that bit that Dr. Connors has in his lab.

IMO, this just won't work. What are you going to have--a bad guy v. a badder guy (Carnage)? None of this anti-hero crap, please.

Venom did go the super-hero route in the 90s...but I never read those books...I mean, murdering psychopaths are for eight year olds.

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Sony Pictures Announces Spider-Man Spinoffs Venom and Sinister Six

In a move said "to forge a new legacy in the story of Peter Parker on screen," Sony Pictures Entertainment announced today that they will, in association with Marvel Entertainment, develop several new projects in the Spider-Man franchise, with Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon, and Drew Goddard to collaborate on overseeing the developing story over several films that will be produced by Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach.
The five writers, along with the two producers and Marc Webb, have formed a franchise brain trust to expand the universe for the brand and to develop a continuous tone and thread throughout the films. Under the deals, the studio announced that Kurtzman & Orci & Pinkner are writing the screenplay for The Amazing Spider-Man 3, which the studio hopes Webb will return to direct. That film will go into production next fall for release on June 10, 2016. In addition, the team will build on the cinematic foundation laid by Webb, Arad, and Tolmach in the first two movies. They will expand the franchise with Kurtzman & Orci & Solomon writing the screenplay for Venom, which Kurtzman will direct. Goddard, then, will write with an eye to direct, The Sinister Six, focusing on the villains in the franchise. Hannah Minghella and Rachel O’Connor will oversee the development and production of these films for the studio. . . .

ComingSoon.net, December 12

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‘Amazing Spider-Man’ Writer Teases ‘Darker’ Spin-Off ‘Venom’

As Sony has begun to build their own cinematic universe around Spider-Man, one man has been there through it all as one of its architects: writer and producer Alex Kurtzman. Somewhere between a female-driven spinoff and a potential “Sinister Six” movie, Kurtzman has his own assignment: bringing anti-hero “Venom” to the big screen. . . .

“The idea,” Kurtzman explained, “is that you can do things with Venom that you can’t do with Spider-Man.” . . .

While it’s not currently known whether Brock, Venom’s later identity Flash Thompson, or some third iteration will be featured in the movie, it does seem that the character will share at least some DNA with his comic book counterpart.

“Venom is the representation of every line that will get crossed,” Kurtzman said. “He’s a much darker character.” . . .

MTV News, September 10

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The popular incarnation of Venom certainly is a product of the 90s; bulky, edgy, violent antiheros were definitely a thing. I've never been a huge comics reader, but I find it simultaneously fascinating and frustrating how much a character can change depending on what writer/artist is handling it. For every character I don't find interesting, there will be at least one story written at some point that makes it worthwhile. For Venom, I appreciated whenever Brock was depicted as struggling with addiction, moreso an addiction that enables the satisfaction of violent desires. This is a sort of antihero that can also be frustrating - you can simultaneously feel sympathetic for the guy, but then get to gleefully indulge in the violence. In the wrong hands, this can be a severe case of doublethink. In the right hands, you can make the violence genuinely tragic.

 

However, I don't have a lot of hope for Kurtzman handling things with any amount of subtlety.

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Variety:

 

The studio is still moving forward with the Spider-Man villain-centric “Sinister Six,” and “Venom” spinoff, as well as a film that features female characters in the “Spider-Man” universe. “The Amazing Spider-Man 3″ has been cancelled. While Marvel’s Kevin Feige is involved with Sony’s new “Spider-Man” films, he is currently not expected to be creatively involved with the spinoffs, sources say.

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'Venom' Director Discusses R-Rating, Promises Most Violent Marvel Character
Speaking to ComicBook.com at San Diego Comic Con, Venom director Ruben Fleischer was asked if his film is approaching an R-rating or, at the very least, pushing the boundaries of violence and darkness. After all, Venom is a character known to be quite intimidating in Marvel Comics, given his violent and horrifying nature.
"That's the plan," Fleischer said. "It is not the plan, that's the movie. Our movie wants to honor the comics as close as we can tonally. In the comics, he bites people's heads off and eats brains. It would be weird to make a movie with Venom if he wasn't doing that. We tried to honor it as closely as possible. This is definitely a darker, more violent, more vicious Marvel character than I think anyone's ever seen before."
ComicBook.com, July 24

What’s Next for the Spider-Man Universe After ‘Venom’ (EXCLUSIVE)
With Disney’s acquisition of Fox’s film studio, Sony is now the only major studio outside of the Magic Kingdom with the licensing rights to Marvel characters. Fox has long had rights to “Fantastic Four” and “The X-Men,” pillars of the Marvel empire, that will now thanks to the magic of a multi-billion dollar corporate merger, be able to interact with Captain America, Iron Man, and other members of the Avengers. All told, Sony’s licensing pact with Marvel includes rights to roughly 900 characters.
If all goes according to plan, and long-lead box office tracking indicates that the film will at least open well, then Sony will quickly segue from “Venom” into a series of sequels and standalone films featuring heroes and villains who populate the Spider-Man universe. Sony has already announced plans to make “Morbius,” with Daniel Espinosa (“Safe House”) directing Jared Leto as the titular vampire and frequent Spidey nemesis, and has lined up Richard Wenk (“The Equalizer 2”) to write a screenplay focused on Kraven the Hunter. The studio is also in the process of developing movies based on Silk, Jackpot, and Nightwatch, and is actively looking for writers to pen scripts. . . .
Some of Sony’s previously announced plans for Spider-Man and company are being reworked. Namely, the studio is scrapping “Silver & Black,” which was supposed to chronicle the team of Silver Sable, a mercenary who runs a company that hunts war criminals, and Black Cat, a burglar named Felicia Hardy. Instead, the characters will be in standalone films, the first of which will likely feature Black Cat. . . .
It’s unlikely that “Venom” will be the first R-rated Sony Marvel movie. Trailers for the film, which recently underwent reshoots in Los Angeles after shooting in Georgia, emphasized the horror movie elements, showing the title character as he’s about to bite a person’s head off. But some members of Sony’s brain trust believe that the film should push the very limits of PG-13 without crossing over into a higher rating. The feeling is that will give the studio greater leeway for future installments that will feature Spider-Man, something “Venom” does not do. Any Spider-Man movie will carry a PG-13 rating because the wall-crawler is more family friendly, and if “Venom” is too dark and gory, it might preclude other film match-ups, not just with Peter Parker’s alter-ego, but also with other members of the extended Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). Venom is one of the darker characters in the comics, but Hardy and director Ruben Fleischer are working to inject humor into the story of a journalist whose body and mind are taken over by an alien entity. . . .
Variety, August 9

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