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If his directing is anything to go by ...

Leonard Maltin's 2011 movie guide does not even include him in his director's index. Oh well.

If he helmed reasonably entertaining, popular entertainment throughout the years then the choice will fit in with what an Oscar ceremony is supposed to be about.

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: Whoa. Now there's a show-host candidate I hadn't thought about before.

Could be interesting, as Eddie Murphy's reputation vis-a-vis the Oscars is one of general petulance. When he presented the Best Picture award in 1988, he chastised the Academy for not giving more awards to black actors, and when he didn't win the Oscar for Dreamgirls in 2007, there were reports -- exaggerated, perhaps, but still -- that he left the ceremony in a huff. (Apparently he also presented awards in 1983 (Best Visual Effects) and 2009 (the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award, which was given that year to Jerry Lewis).)

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Murphy says "Yes."

Eddie, who was nominated for Best Supporting Actor in 2006′s Dreamgirls but lost, is said to worship the Oscars. “Nobody knows movies better or is a bigger cinephile than Eddie. Not Brett. Not even Quentin Tarantino. Eddie can quote scenes from every single movie word for word,” an insider tells me. “He can bring all that experience to hosting. Plus he has Saturday Night Live experience before a live crowd. And worldwide the biggest crossover comedians are Will Smith and Eddie Murphy.” That’s important because a huge part of the Academy Awards telecast audience is global. And with two movies opening before the Oscars, Murphy could benefit from the publicity bonanza especially overseas where international releases usually follow U.S. openings by several months. Besides, the Academy has been after more diversity which is why this October it’s honoring James Earl Jones and Oprah Winfrey (even though she’s much more of a TV personality than a movie star or filmmaker).
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Source: Brett Ratner Out as Oscar Show Producer

Ratner had been named as the producer of the 2012 Academy Awards show, but he has been under fire for making a series of ill-judged remarks in recent days, including saying "rehearsal is for fags" and discussing his sex life with Howard Stern.

The Academy is expected to issue an announcement detailing the situation later today. It is not yet known whether Eddie Murphy, who stars in Ratner's film Tower Heist and was recruited by Ratner to serve as the host of the Oscar show, will remain involved with the production.

Hollywood Reporter, November 8

Edited by Peter T Chattaway

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Please explain someone ...

Did Eddie Murphy withdraw in protest of Brett Ratner being canned (good for him if he did). Or was Murphy canned / encouraged to resign because he was part of Team Ratner? Or did someone finally You-Tube search Murphy's gay routine in RAW (which I remember even in 1987 thinking was ugly and mean-spirited, and I speak as someone who thought, and still thinks, the routine in DELIRIOUS was hilarious)?

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I dunno, as I understand it, hosts are hired by the producer, and if the producer goes, then the host is in an awkward spot. Has a producer ever quit the Oscars before? If so, then there might be a precedent to measure Murphy against.

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"LIKE" the Muppet Oscars Facebook Page.

A Muppet-hosted Oscars might be our best chance to see Frank Oz operating a Yoda puppet again. Or David Bowie as the Goblin King. Or Statler and Waldorf heckling the Oscars. Or Beaker presenting the award for Best Foreign Language Film.

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Brian Grazer to produce. The headline on this piece originally said that Grazer was hoping Eddie Murphy would reconsider and come back to host the show -- which, if Murphy had refused, REALLY wouldn`t have looked good -- but now they`re saying Grazer and the Academy have `moved on`.

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Brian Grazer to produce. The headline on this piece originally said that Grazer was hoping Eddie Murphy would reconsider and come back to host the show -- which, if Murphy had refused, REALLY wouldn`t have looked good -- but now they`re saying Grazer and the Academy have `moved on`.

So I guess Ron Howard will be hosting?

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Brian Grazer to produce. The headline on this piece originally said that Grazer was hoping Eddie Murphy would reconsider and come back to host the show -- which, if Murphy had refused, REALLY wouldn`t have looked good -- but now they`re saying Grazer and the Academy have `moved on`.

So I guess Ron Howard will be hosting?

No, he'll be the announcer, but in the Arrested Development narrator style.

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Kyle Smith:

This was perhaps the most high-profile punishment ever administered for use of this word, suggesting “fag” has now joined the N-word and the C-word as one of the three Words You Cannot Say.

And sure enough, in their discussion of this story, MTV Movies Blog renders the offending word in question "f**s". Good grief.

Meanwhile, The Los Angeles Times reminds us that Brian Grazer himself was associated with a `gay controversy` only just last year (that whole `electric cars are gay` thing from the trailer for The Dilemma, which Grazer produced).

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Kyle Smith:

This was perhaps the most high-profile punishment ever administered for use of this word, suggesting “fag” has now joined the N-word and the C-word as one of the three Words You Cannot Say.

To be fair, the remark came at the tail end of a whole string of comments that raised eyebrows about Ratner's fitness:

He [...] discussed masturbation, his skill at performing oral sex, pubic hair, the size of his testicles, the erotic habits of Hollywood moguls, his dislike of using condoms, and his supposed habit of sending potential partners to his doctor to be checked for STDs before he sleeps with them.

I'm thinking the "fag" thing might have been the straw that broke the camel's back. As Linda Holmes points out,

When you're intentionally speaking about women you've had sex with (or you're saying you've had sex with) as a way of daring people to be offended and showing off how much you don't mind, then if they're offended, you got what you wanted.

[snip]

Not having him in charge of the Oscars doesn't need to be about hand-wringing, pearl-clutching, or even gasping in shock.

It should be done with a dispassionate shrug. "We aren't looking for a producer with this vision of what public behavior is supposed to look like, because the Oscars telecast is a brand that isn't consistent with that." It doesn't have to be a scandal. It's simple cause and effect.

....

In other news, for some reason, I've been confusing Ratner with Brian Singer. Which led to an interesting moment of "wait, what?" when all this first broke.

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In other news, for some reason, I've been confusing Ratner with Brian Singer. Which led to an interesting moment of "wait, what?" when all this first broke.

They both directed X-Men movies, so that's understandable. Just remember that Ratner directed the one that killed that iteration of the franchise.

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In other news, for some reason, I've been confusing Ratner with Brian Singer. Which led to an interesting moment of "wait, what?" when all this first broke.

They both directed X-Men movies, so that's understandable. Just remember that Ratner directed the one that killed that iteration of the franchise.

In other words, Singer is the one who rehearses.

;)

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In other news, for some reason, I've been confusing Ratner with Brian Singer. Which led to an interesting moment of "wait, what?" when all this first broke.

They both directed X-Men movies, so that's understandable. Just remember that Ratner directed the one that killed that iteration of the franchise.

In other words, Singer is the one who rehearses.

;)

See, it's this sort of comment that kind of makes me wish we had a "like" button.

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NBooth wrote:

: I'm thinking the "fag" thing might have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

Actually, the consensus I`ve been picking up from some movie blogs is the exact opposite of that. They think Ratner could have survived a single off-the-cuff non-malicious use of the word "fags" -- just look at how Tracy Morgan bounced back from his presumably premeditated stand-up routine about how he would stab his son if his son were gay, which is way worse than anything Ratner said -- but Ratner`s subsequent appearance on the Howard Stern show, in which he discussed his sexual habits in such vivid detail, is what broke the camel's back in this case.

Of course, the fact that Ratner indicated he hates rehearsals also didn`t bode well for the sort of, um, production values he might have brought to the Oscars -- which are, after all, broadcast live. If the show had turned out badly, everyone would have been quick to point his anti-rehearsal attitude, and everyone would have asked what the Academy was THINKING by hiring this guy in the first place.

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In other news, for some reason, I've been confusing Ratner with Brian Singer. Which led to an interesting moment of "wait, what?" when all this first broke.

They both directed X-Men movies, so that's understandable. Just remember that Ratner directed the one that killed that iteration of the franchise.

In other words, Singer is the one who rehearses.

;)

Love your wit, sir!

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So... how daring and imaginative is the Academy?

The Oscars will be hosted by... [ drum roll ] ... Billy Crystal.

Really?

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I tweeted that possibility about a half hour ago before I saw that anyone else had suggested it. It seems the obvious solution.

A "solution" would suggest there was a "problem." What would that have been?

Am I the only person who thinks Crystal is an upgrade to most of the past hosts, none of whom have been as good as Crystal? (I WOULD have loved to see Eddie Murphy host, but was prepared for him to be disappointing; I've learned it's best to keep the bar low for Oscar hosts.)

The Muppets is a cute idea, but the Muppet brand of humor, while sweet, works for me mainly as a form of nostalgia rather than anything "hip" or contemporary. Now, I know what you're thinking: "hip" and "contemporary" are part of the problem with humor. Why not a throwback?

I'm OK with a throwback. And yes, I'm looking forward to the new Muppets movie, although I wouldn't say I'm eager to see it. I am eager to see Crystal host the Oscars again. Maybe his humor is considered "old fashioned," or "dated" or whatever -- I remember him being charged as such during his earlier hosting gigs! -- but all I know is that it made me laugh repeatedly, more than any other recent host. And more than the Muppets.

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