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http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/37/features-finke.php

Apparently, discussions like this one were instrumental to the site's beginnings. biggrin.gif

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Shantih   

It's amazing the dependancy you can get to a resource so quickly. I often wonder how anyone wrote on film before Imdb. Maybe having a hefty copy of Halliwells on the shelf or Microsoft's old Cinemania software (which is still *excellent*) but it certainly would have made last minute proofing of film articles a much more stressful business!

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Any comments of the face lift at IMDB? (at least to the film and people pages, if not the startup page.)

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I depend heavily on IMDb but what really bugs me is the poor control of quotes and trivia pages. Frequently on the pages of quotes people have submitted two similar versions of the same piece of dialogue. There ought to be some mechanism for someone else to say which (if either) is right, or to correct spelling errors, etc. Similarly, the trivia pages often have errors. I've given up flagging them up to IMDb because nothing ever gets changed. I guess I think some parts of it should be a wiki.

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I frequently use the IMDB but I take everything I read there with a pinch of salt as they are overloaded with inaccurate information. You have to double-check everything. They have no quality control and the site is an absolute mess.

A resource I find extremely useful is the Movie Review Query Engine.

http://www.mrqe.com/lookup

Edited by The Invisible Man

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The mrqe is a great site, but more of a kind with Rotten Tomatoes or MetaCritic than IMDb. When I need just the straight facts about a movie, IMDb or Wikipedia are the places I look.

Edited by David Smedberg

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The mrqe is a great site, but more of a kind with Rotten Tomatoes or MetaCritic than IMDb. When I need just the straight facts about a movie, IMDb or Wikipedia are the places I look.

Exactly. I rarely use MRQE because for me it's not an efficient way to find the kinds of reviews I need. It's a good site, but not what works for me. Rotten Tomatoes is slightly more useful to get a flavour of what various critics are saying without having to trawl through every review. Wikipedia is increasingly my reference site of choice because errors get picked up so quickly. I pay over $100 pa for IMDbPro and I should be able to expect accuracy throughout the site.

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gigi   

IMDB was absolutely a lifesaver when I did my undergrad film degree. Particularly useful were the links to trailers & posters, and the box office info. Although Variety was also fantastically useful in this respect before their free trial ran out (it lasted a couple of months, they've since cut this down substantially and it is far too expensive for the likes of a poor lowly stude type like myself).

Sure there are inaccuracies in some areas, such as the quotes, but i wouldn't ever go there for that sort of stuff. I'd obviously refer to the film if it was handy, but otherwise scriptorama is far better in this respect.

However, basic info, IMDB is irreplaceable. I'm also very grateful for the facelift as it was particularly difficult to spot links before - even when you knew they were there, for some reason they remained elusive. Not so anymore.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned since the recent IMDb face lift, is the change in some of the listings for upcoming movies. Some of these titles can now only be accessed through IMDb Pro. Last year, I looked up info on the soon to be produced film version of Norman McClean's book Young Men and Fire. IIRC, the IMDb announcement was limited, but had attached Door in the Floor director Tod Williams as Writer/Director. Now there is a page saying...

More information for this In Development project is only available on IMDbPro.

Is IMDb doing this only with films that have gone into limbo (director Tod Williams page no longer lists him as being attached to the film), or has anyone else tried searching for info on an upcoming film only to be redirected to a page saying you need to subscribe to IMDb Pro for access?

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IMDb is apparently also making it more difficult to find films of a "graphic" nature. For the most part, this censorship targets out-and-out porn films like the ones that star e.g. Ron Jeremy, but if search for a more "legitimate" arthouse movie like "the brown bunny", the search engine turns up nothing useful -- but the movie's page is still there, even if you have to get to it through other avenues, such as Vincent Gallo's filmography.

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I've noticed something new at IMDB - the list of keywords is now spoiler protected. You don't see them unless you roll over the warning or rate the film.

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If I may quote my second-to-last Facebook status update (and one of my comments thereon):

Peter T. Chattaway is really, really not happy with the IMDb's recent decision to privilege the American titles of the films in its database rather than the original foreign titles, even when the foreign titles are in English. . . .

I noticed this last night while looking up some of David Lean's earlier films, and then I checked some of the Powell-Pressburger films. It's really rather puzzling to see the IMDb list, e.g., The Invaders as the title of a certain movie, simply because that's how it was released in the States nearly 70 years ago, when the original English title -- and the title on the current VHS and DVD releases, even in North America -- is 49th Parallel. What's next, are they going to list the American release date as the film's primary release date?

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MattPage   

: Peter T. Chattaway is really, really not happy with the IMDb's recent decision

: to privilege the American titles of the films in its database rather than the

: original foreign titles, even when the foreign titles are in English. . . .

Well our top 100 list does it so...

Matt

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MattPage wrote:

: Well our top 100 list does it so...

Well, our Top 100 is inconsistent on this point. Right at the top, at #1, we have "Ordet", followed by the alternate title "The Word" -- and then, at #2, we have "The Decalogue", followed by the alternate title "Dekalog". And so on.

But is there any example in our Top 100 of a film like 49th Parallel, i.e. a film that was released in England or Canada or Australia with an original English title, and in the United States with a secondary English title? where the Top 100 goes with the secondary American title instead of the original English title, even though the original English title is now the preferred title on North American DVD releases etc.?

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Persona   

FWIW, this has bugged me too.

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MattPage   

MattPage wrote:

: Well our top 100 list does it so...

Well, our Top 100 is inconsistent on this point. Right at the top, at #1, we have "Ordet", followed by the alternate title "The Word" -- and then, at #2, we have "The Decalogue", followed by the alternate title "Dekalog". And so on.

Yeah I wish we'd change that.

But is there any example in our Top 100 of a film like 49th Parallel, i.e. a film that was released in England or Canada or Australia with an original English title, and in the United States with a secondary English title? where the Top 100 goes with the secondary American title instead of the original English title, even though the original English title is now the preferred title on North American DVD releases etc.?

Not as such, but there are at least two places where we have taken a foreign language film and given it its poorly translated US translation rather than the more accurate English translation. And in both cases I'd strongly argue that it detracts from the film.

We also don't have a foreign title at all for Jezile (Son of Man)

Matt

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Peter T. Chattaway is really, really not happy with the IMDb's recent decision to privilege the American titles of the films in its database rather than the original foreign titles, even when the foreign titles are in English. . . .

And names as well. The press notes for Lebanon refer to Shmuel Maoz. IMDB has him as Samuel Maoz. I suppose you can transliterate the Hebrew that way, but...

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Baal_T'shuvah wrote:

: Any reactions to the new "Amazon.com" style layout for over at IMDb?

Has it changed again since July 20?

FWIW, I was able to change it back to the way it was a few days ago by logging in and going into my account settings, or something like that.

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Persona   
FWIW, I was able to change it back to the way it was a few days ago by logging in and going into my account settings, or something like that.

Thank you! Much better.

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Thought this would be the best place to post this. Has anyone ever checked out IMFDb? That's the Internet Movie Firearms Database. I've found it to be quite informative when I've had a question or two about guns used in films. Django Unchained was probably the most recent film where I questioned the accuracy of some of the firearm choices in the film, given the year the film takes place (1858). Namely one of the ambushes in the woods where Django and Dr. Schultz are using repeating rifles which I thought were Winchesters. IMFDb pegged them as Henry rifles, which weren't manufactured until 1860, two years after the events in Django take place.

It's a pretty useful site, if you have questions about weaponry.

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John Drew wrote:

: IMFDb pegged them as Henry rifles, which weren't manufactured until 1860, two years after the events in Django take place.

If memory serves, the film says at the beginning that it takes place in "1858", "two years" before the Civil War. Since it's impossible for both of these statements to be true, I propose that we go with "two years" and say that the film really begins in 1859. And since, if memory serves, Django and his mentor spend their winter bounty-hunting, I propose that we say the latter section of the movie takes place after the New Year, in 1860. Problem solved!

Though apparently that wouldn't solve the problem of these characters using dynamite, which wasn't patented until 1867...

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Persona   

Has it been noted in this forum that the IMDb message boards are going dead in two weeks? I know it is the last place one should go for serious discussion, or rather good discussion, but it's also the quickest and the easiest. IMDb basically announced that the bulk of what was happening on their boards wasn't positive. I find this move highly interesting.

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On 2/5/2017 at 4:49 PM, Persona said:

Has it been noted in this forum that the IMDb message boards are going dead in two weeks? I know it is the last place one should go for serious discussion, or rather good discussion, but it's also the quickest and the easiest. IMDb basically announced that the bulk of what was happening on their boards wasn't positive. I find this move highly interesting.

My only fear is that getting rid of the message boards will lead more of the trolls to begin posting in the User Review section of IMDb, potentially leading to the dismantling of that portion of the site.  I've used that section to discuss films with folks much more than the message boards.

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