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Does anybody want to draft a letter of concern from the Promontory Arts and Faith Board? We could all sign it and send it to the head honchos there...

Um, those honchos haven't the testicular fortitude (for lack of a better term) to identify themselves anywhere on their site. I'm convinced that trying to persuade these folks of anything = total waste of time.

It might be good to list a lot of Scriptural backup for our concerns, since that seems to be their manner of discourse: Scriptural backup for their points.

But then you get into a Scripture-flinging match with a well-armed opponent. The Scripture on our side of the argument would be (1) Matthew 18: these folks haven't first gone privately to the people they're criticizing; (2) any epistolary lists of sins that include slander, malicious gossip and backbiting; (3) "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples," "Beloved, let us love one another," etc. The standard fundy-ripostes to these are already canned and waiting on the shelf, and all we've done is jack up the frustration level.

It might also be good to ask them what Christian artists AREN'T corrupt, and to defend their case on that point....

Oh, that's easy -- there's a page that says they don't recommend any Christian recording artist because they haven't found one who isn't corrupt. Nobody passes the acid test. (Not even Steve Camp or Don Francisco, both of whom have views on the CCM industry that would dovetail with those held by the authors of this site.) What we need to do is find some porn site that was built using the same Web-design software package as the corruptchristianmusic.com site -- then we can apply the sin-by-association logic to the site itself. As noble as that task might be, I regret that I am unavailable to perform it myself. Seriously, there's a good reason our antagonists remain anonymous: they know their own lives can't hold up to the kind of scrutiny they're applying to Christian artists. And whose life could?

I'm no great fan of CCM in its present incarnation, and I tend to think it can use a healthy dose of criticism, although mostly for different reasons: for example, the genre has been so financially successful that the theological integrity of lyrics has become secondary to market concerns. Reasons like that. But I'm not going to make a Web site out of them.

Let's Carl the whole thing Orff!

Do you know the deep dark secret of the avatars?

It's big. It's fat. It's Greek.

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I would recommend against engaging in discussion with the CorruptChristianMusic folks, for two reasons:

1) I think writing such a letter would furnish these ultra-fundies with more attention than their opinions deserve.

2) I'm sure these folks are so convinced of their moral and scriptural rectitude that reasonable debate will not sway them an iota.

To be an artist is never to avert one's eyes.
- Akira Kurosawa

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If they replied at all and dialogued, it would probably be no better than...shucks, who was that guy from the old site...he had his own church and he posted on another board...can't remember his name, but writing the authors of this site would probably be just as futile as engaging that guy.

I'm so bad at names... :oops:

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Actually, someone from the Jesus_Music@yahoogroups.com list corresponded with the CorruptChristian folks and got a very polite reply. The bone of contention in this case was the site's reference to "the late Larry Norman"; apparently the site's author confirmed that Larry is in fact still kickin' and corrected the reference. Of course, this was purely a matter of correcting a factual mistake. It did not require him to revise his opinion of Larry Norman.

Let's Carl the whole thing Orff!

Do you know the deep dark secret of the avatars?

It's big. It's fat. It's Greek.

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Dialogue with CorruptChristianMusic-type folk is difficult for a number of reasons. One of the reasons involves belief. I had a philosphy prof who once said that few people actually believe something because they've been convinced of it. Far more often, belief is a result of non-rational mechanisms such as fear, emotional attachment, comfort, or a host of other factors. This is true, he claimed, for the religious nut as much as the philosophy prof. And while his assertion was mainly directed at fundamental beliefs, I think that the idea holds to some extent for less fundamental beliefs. That means that the CCM-folks probably hold to their (in our eyes) ridiculous beliefs more because of some non-rational effect than because of a flawless argument or careful thought. Then again, if my prof is correct, the same goes for most of us. He isn't saying that people are essentially non-rational; many people are adept with logic. He's just saying that our logic (spotless or flawed) has much less influence on our actual beliefs than we might think.

So when the Promontory Arts and Faith Board presents a gentle, carefully thought-out, and reasonable (in our minds) argument to the CCM-folk, I'm afraid that it would be viewed just as we would view a similar argument from them. As mrmando said, we can all throw scripture around.

Now don't take this as a diatribe against rationalism; I'm just saying that this a the point where arguments hold less value. I mean, really, would you actually take seriously a note from CorruptChristianMusic.com saying that you and your band are a disgrace to Christ's name for the following reasons? Or would you laugh, get a little frustrated at the hypocrites of the world, and return to your standard arguments?

If we can't enlighten with good arguments, then what? Answers are a bit harder, but I think they at least involve love through personal interaction.

/soapbox

Whew...that was more than I meant to say.

So you ladies and you gentlemen, pull your bloomers on...

-Joe Henry

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