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  1. 1. Which film would you MOST like us next to watch and discuss?

    • Birth (Jonathan Glazer, 2004)
      2
    • Far from Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002)
      1
    • Pi (Darren Aronofsky, 1998)
      1
    • Safe (Todd Haynes, 1995)
      8
    • The Best of Youth (Marco Tullio Giordana, 2003)
      2
    • The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962)
      1
  2. 2. Which film would you LEAST like us next to watch and discuss?

    • Birth (Jonathan Glazer, 2004)
      0
    • Far from Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002)
      4
    • Pi (Darren Aronofsky, 1998)
      7
    • Safe (Todd Haynes, 1995)
      0
    • The Best of Youth (Marco Tullio Giordana, 2003)
      1
    • The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (John Ford, 1962)
      3

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Oooh man. Far From Heaven is probably my favorite movie of the new millennium, and it warrants some serious discussion. Safe is also bloody brilliant.

I'd be thrilled with either.

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Not to gloat or anything, but did y'all notice that my nominee is winning? Hands down, in the lead(cough in the second category). All riiiiiiiiiiiight. (I'm liking this least popular category, it gives us all a chance to win something.) :)

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I wouldn't take it personally, Mark. You know, we used to do something similar in college--a group of us would go to the store; each person could nominate one film, and each person could veto one film. Unfortunately, this process usually ensured that the films folks were most passionate about (yea and nay) would get cancelled out, thus leaving only only film(s) no one really had an opinion about either way--and they were invariably the most mediocre titles of the bunch. So be glad you're inducing some passion, even if it's negative! ;)

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Mark, I really love Pi. (Coincidentally, I also love pie. ;) ) I bet I've watched it ten times over the years. I've tried on a few occassions to write something intelligent about the film but have failed each time. It has such great energy, and I have a weakness for detective/conspiracy films, but I'm afraid that if I dig too deep into Pi I'll be disappointed to discover that under all of that style there isn't too much substance.

It doesn't bother me at all that my nomination, Birth, hasn't received any votes. I think Safe will make better fodder for a group discussion. Still, though, I hope a few people will check out Birth. If we do discuss Safe, I'm guessing that the formal influence of Kubrick will eventually come up, and Birth owes an even greater debt to St. Stanley.

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I heavily debated voting for Birth as I simply adore that movie.

I echo Darren's recommendation.

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I think Russ' idea of a Safe-Birth succession would be great.

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I'm game, too.

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I like the idea of Safe - Birth too.

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This has probably been brought up somewhere on the board, but just in case, a heads-up is in order for Safe. Sony put a couple hundred titles in their catalogue out of print for "not selling well", and Safe was one of the bunch. DeepdiscountDVD.com put all of the titles on clearance for $6--those who need to track it down may want to see if there are any copies still available.

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Many thanks, Alan, for posting the poll!

Here's another fan of a Safe-Birth discussion.

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I wouldn't take it personally, Mark. You know, we used to do something similar in college--a group of us would go to the store; each person could nominate one film, and each person could veto one film. Unfortunately, this process usually ensured that the films folks were most passionate about (yea and nay) would get cancelled out, thus leaving only only film(s) no one really had an opinion about either way--and they were invariably the most mediocre titles of the bunch. So be glad you're inducing some passion, even if it's negative! ;)

Heh, I just couldn't resist being a smart-ass :) . Part of the reason I'm guessing some people voted down Pi is what Darren said, and also the fact that there's been quite a bit written already about its spiritual undertones. (or overtones?)

Mark, I really love Pi. (Coincidentally, I also love pie. ;) )

Hey, Darren's onto something here ... anyone want to start an Arts & Faith Pie Club? Kind of like our CD mix club, wherein we trade whole pies made of different pie flavors - blueberry, rhubarb, sweet potato ... ? I'm so in.

And, oh yeah, I'm up for the Safe-Birth discussion, too, or even Russ' original suggestion of Safe-Birth-Far From Heaven.

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And, oh yeah, I'm up for the Safe-Birth discussion, too, or even Russ' original suggestion of Safe-Birth-Far From Heaven.

I left out Far from Heaven in my last post, but I'm all for including it, too.

Mmmmm....pie club. Just make sure you're never eating pie while watching Pi. Trust me on this one.

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I wouldn't take it personally, Mark. You know, we used to do something similar in college--a group of us would go to the store; each person could nominate one film, and each person could veto one film. Unfortunately, this process usually ensured that the films folks were most passionate about (yea and nay) would get cancelled out, thus leaving only only film(s) no one really had an opinion about either way--and they were invariably the most mediocre titles of the bunch.

Page's inverse law of group video quality states that "the greater number of people in a group going to watch a film, the lower the quality of the film that will be selected."

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Right, I think this leveling effect really only occurs when everyone has veto power, which doesn't exist here. (Although even if it did, Birth and Safe would still be contenders.)

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This decision would be ruined though if someone did interject with the words I fear in group video choice situations. "Oh I just feel like something lighthearted..."

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This decision would be ruined though if someone did interject with the words I fear in group video choice situations. "Oh I just feel like something lighthearted..."

Yeah, with this group of films that would be Pi.

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"Oh I just feel like something lighthearted..."

Ha. Laura Miller has a so-so review of the new American Movie Critics book in the latest Salon, but I liked this part:

"...[G]ood writers want subjects that fire them up. The kind of person who sees, say, "Ultraviolet," then goes home, looks up a review online, marvels at the critic's vitriol and fires off an e-mail saying, "Chill out, dude, it's just a movie. It was fun," is not someone whose opinions anyone wants to read at length, on a regular basis -- or ever, really. (And, confidentially, if you are the kind of person who sends those e-mails: What gives? If you don't think certain movies should be taken so seriously, why even bother to read the reviews?)"

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This decision would be ruined though if someone did interject with the words I fear in group video choice situations. "Oh I just feel like something lighthearted..."

Yeah, with this group of films that would be Pi.

Oh, awesome. So I'm the guy nominating the Meg Ryan movie for film club???

(Is that Meg Ryan's brain at the subway station?)

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I think it's really odd that Far from Heaven has gotten four nay votes.

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I think it's really odd that Far from Heaven has gotten four nay votes.

I'm hoping that's because many of us have seen it and were around for the original board discussions a few years ago. I really like it (and it would be good to use as a discussion film because I own the DVD and so would be less work for me ;)).

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Anyone have any suggestions as to how long we want to keep this poll open and when we'd want to start a discussion? Looks like Safe is a sure bet.

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How quickly can everyone get their hands on a copy of Safe? Depending on that, we could kick off discussion maybe late next week. Or we could wait until after Easter. Whatever y'all want is fine by me.

If anyone would like to shepherd the actual discussion, step right up. :)

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I'll move Safe to the top of my queue. I should have it by early next week, at the latest, I would think.

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So we're discussing this later this wekk?

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