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#61 Christian

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:45 PM


I still can't look at Pete Campbell without seeing Connor from Angel, though.


I can't look at Campbell without wanting to pound his face in.

I share this Campbell problem, from episode 1 on.

#62 Jason Panella

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 03:45 PM


I still can't look at Pete Campbell without seeing Connor from Angel, though.


I can't look at Campbell without wanting to pound his face in.


These two comments are not unrelated.

#63 Anna J

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

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#64 Ryan H.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

One thing I'll be keeping an eye on is how the theme of "power" plays itself out over the course of the season, as that seemed to be the recurring theme of the premier: the advantages of power, how those in power are perceived by those with less power, etc.

Oh, definitely. I think there are going to be many power struggles in season 5. The show has taken us to dark places for individual characters before, but I think this seasons is going to give us a collective breakdown of the whole ensemble of characters as they are all pitted against each other. This opener had a pretty ominous undercurrent, and the creators have explained that this is the season where everyone seems to be out for themselves. I'm bracing myself for all these relationships to crumble.



I still can't look at Pete Campbell without seeing Connor from Angel, though.

I can't look at Campbell without wanting to pound his face in.

I share this Campbell problem, from episode 1 on.

I was warming to Campbell--it seemed he was making progress--but it seems that he's going to regress this season.

#65 andrew_b_welch

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:41 AM

Who saw last Sunday's episode? Anyone?

Okay, well here goes. Watch out, people. Spoilers ahead:

Does anyone have any thoughts on
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#66 Anna J

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

Andrew:

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Also, Pete Campbell is my favorite character on the whole show. "It's a Chip-and-Dip!"

#67 Anna J

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

All four seasons of Mad Men are $9.99 at Target.com.

#68 Ryan H.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:56 PM

Is it just me, or is this the best season of MAD MEN yet?

Last night's episode was dynamite.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 07:01 PM

Is it just me, or is this the best season of MAD MEN yet?

Last night's episode was dynamite.

Last night's was absolutely a killer episode. I don't know where they're taking Pete, but they're doing it very well. I loved the repeated dripping motif, and I thought that, visually, Slattery did a great job--the cutting from scene to scene was fantastic.

But the
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? That was absolute gold. One of my all-time favorite Mad Men moments ever.

#70 Ryan H.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 07:05 PM

What was astonishing to me was that Don was the voice of Pete's conscience. And I *loved* Cosrgrove's Ray Bradbury-like short story to close it out. But I'm a Ray Bradbury nut.

And yes, the Lane/Campbell fight is pure gold.

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#71 Tyler

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:58 PM

Just popping in to mention I finished the second season, and it's *much* better than the first season. I can see why people get excited about this show now.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:18 AM

"There was chewing gum in his pubis!"

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

Just finished watching season 3. I liked the season overall quite a bit, although I have to admit The Office did the whole "going rogue and starting their own guerrilla company" storyline better (and 7 months earlier) with the Michael Scott Paper Company.

#74 Ryan H.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:14 PM

Heresy, Tyler. (But I never did much care for THE OFFICE, even when it supposedly good.)

Anyway, the most recent episode--"Far Away Places"--is getting a lot of conversation because of the drug use, but I was more struck by how bleak and depressing the episode was. I don't think MAD MEN has had such a downer of an episode before. I don't think things are going to get lighter, either. These episodes has established that the trajectory of this season is a downward spiral. It's going to get ugly.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:50 PM

I don't think MAD MEN has had such a downer of an episode before. I don't think things are going to get lighter, either. These episodes has established that the trajectory of this season is a downward spiral. It's going to get ugly.


I didn't think this one was quite as depressing (or creepy at the very least) as the last one, with Pete. But I would agree, wherever this is going, it's not going to be pretty.

#76 Ryan H.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:08 PM

The one with Pete was creepy, but I didn't find it as depressing. At the very least, I didn't find it as desperate, and there was a lot more comedy throughout that episode to pick me up. But I don't really feel for Pete Campbell, so I was more of a distant observer there, and was more than a little pleased when he got his comeuppance.

But this episode hit me square in the gut. The desperation is everywhere, spreading even to characters who I thought were a little more stable than the others. There was very little humor to break anything up. And the violence of that final section tipped me right over the edge.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:12 PM

Heresy, Tyler. (But I never did much care for THE OFFICE, even when it supposedly good.)

Anyway, the most recent episode--"Far Away Places"--is getting a lot of conversation because of the drug use, but I was more struck by how bleak and depressing the episode was. I don't think MAD MEN has had such a downer of an episode before. I don't think things are going to get lighter, either. These episodes has established that the trajectory of this season is a downward spiral. It's going to get ugly.


Ryan, did you ever watch the UK version of THE OFFICE? I couldn't bring myself to watch the American version, but I think the UK version is just about one of the most perfect shows ever.

Yeah, this episode was pretty dark, but it was also inevitable. I'd been waiting for Roger to get tired of Jane officially for a while. And the Don/Megan stuff we saw coming in the season opener as far as the undercurrent of violence in their relationship anyway. I think Don genuinely wants things to work, especially after his comments to Pete last episode. But he has no idea how to relate to women apart from misogyny. Also, Ginsburg's revelation was interesting, but I saw it coming when we were introduced to his "father."

Oh, and I loved the use of The Beach Boys during the LSD sequence. Fantastic stuff.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:19 PM

Ryan, did you ever watch the UK version of THE OFFICE? I couldn't bring myself to watch the American version, but I think the UK version is just about one of the most perfect shows ever.

I've seen some of it. From what I've seen, I do prefer it to its American counterpart, but I'm not what you'd call a fan.

Yeah, this episode was pretty dark, but it was also inevitable.

Oh, yes. But I didn't expect them to pile it all into a single episode. The way the structure layered these character's relational distingrations gave them a heft they might not have otherwise had if the moments had been sprinkled out through the rest of the remaining episodes.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:26 PM

Ryan, did you ever watch the UK version of THE OFFICE? I couldn't bring myself to watch the American version, but I think the UK version is just about one of the most perfect shows ever.

I've seen some of it. From what I've seen, I do prefer it to its American counterpart, but I'm not what you'd call a fan.


Do check it out. It's only 12 episodes and the Christmas Special (which is really key to the whole thing). I don't even know if I'd call it comedy in the end. It's something much more.

#80 Jason Panella

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 06:20 AM

Chiming in to say I've had a similar experience to Tyler. We finished season one and ended up liking it, and finished season two not to long after that and absolutely loved it. We've intentionally put our viewing on hold — at the rate we were going, we'd blaze through the remaining available episodes on Netflix streaming and just get bummed out when we finished. I think we're going to pick up with season three in a few weeks.