Adding a Top 10 List?
Posted 29 October 2010 - 01:36 AM
But if we do a Top 100 list every year -- even if the composition of the list changes by, say, 20-30 films -- is this enough to keep the whole exercise fresh?
At least for the outside world? (Seems like we could endlessly discuss the small, marginal changes in the list.)
This led me to wonder: should we consider adding a Top 10 list based on some more narrow criterion -- to generate a little extra interest in what we're up to?
Maybe we could select a different theme/criterion for a flanking Top 10 list every year.
(No, I don't really have great ideas for particular Top 10 lists, but I'm trusting that others will. "Top 10 Movies with Nuns?" See? Told you.)
I can see many objections: why isn't the main list interesting enough, don't we have enough to think about, who gets to choose this top 10 list and how?
Could be a stupid idea. I'm willing for everyone to say No in unison.
I just thought I'd ask.
Posted 29 October 2010 - 11:39 AM
Doing the overall Top 100 list maybe every 3 years would help keep it fresh for us and for the general public, too.
Posted 29 October 2010 - 11:52 AM
We could expand that to include weird puppetry in general. I know I've always wanted to see a list with Jan Svankmajer, Spike Jonze, and Hsiao-hsien Hou on it.
Posted 29 October 2010 - 12:44 PM
And Shinoda's Double Suicide makes very cool use of classic Japanese bunraku puppetry, and Truffaut's 400 Blows has a Punch & Judy scene. So we've got a Top 5 already!
Posted 30 October 2010 - 04:08 PM
But should we?
Andrew suggests every three years.
Maybe before we decide on doing Top 10s or Top 25s we should decide how often we do the Top 100.
A new top 100 every year seems like overkill to me. Doing smaller, more theme-directed lists in the years between a big list could be fun, though.
Posted 30 October 2010 - 08:49 PM
Top 10's in some category could make a nice filler in the in between years.
Posted 30 October 2010 - 09:09 PM
I like the idea of the Top 10s to celebrate certain aspects of the current list. I could see that as a more-often-than-once-a-year thing.
I would still like to do the T100 this year, because I think the second go around under Image's auspices would help sort out some of the things that seem a little off this year.
Posted 30 October 2010 - 09:51 PM
: Any real change would probably come from tweaking the process.
Or from serious turnover in the active A&F membership, if such turnover exists.
At any rate, yeah, I too think that doing the Top 100 every two or three years would be better than doing it every year, with theme-specific Top 10 or Top 25 lists filling the intervening years. For whatever that's worth.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:27 PM
The flexibility of these categories also allows us to talk about some interesting films, including such interesting films as Laughton's NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, Dreyer's VAMPYR, Roeg's DON'T LOOK NOW, Herzog's NOSFERATU: PHANTOM DER NACHT, Hitchcock's PSYCHO, Whales' FRANKENSTEIN, Scott's ALIEN, or Friedkin's THE EXORCIST. And then, of course, each of us could make the case for other, unusual films as well; I've argued in the past that APOCALYPSE NOW's proper genre is "horror," and one, I suspect, could make the case for Polanski's MACBETH or Lynch's ERASERHEAD.
Edited by Ryan H., 31 October 2010 - 02:38 PM.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 02:35 PM
The flexibility of these categories also allows us to talk about some interesting films, anything from Laughton's NIGHT OF THE HUNTER to Dreyer's VAMPYR to Roeg's DON'T LOOK NOW to Herzog's NOSFERATU: PHANTOM DER NACHT to a stalwart classic like Hitchcock's PSYCHO, Whales' FRANKENSTEIN, Scott's ALIEN, or Friedkin's THE EXORCIST. And then, of course, each of us could make the case for other, unusual films as well; I've argued in the past that APOCALYPSE NOW's proper genre is "horror," and one, I suspect, could make the case for Polanski's MACBETH or Lynch's ERASERHEAD.
I think this is a great suggestion.
Posted 01 November 2010 - 08:05 AM
I think we should keep it simple. If 100 is too many to do each year, then we should reduce the number of movies on the list -- permanently -- perhaps to 25(?). But in my opinion we should keep voting each year, because each year I think the debate furthers the debate at large on this forum. The list is really only half the point, at most -- the discussion is at least as great a good as the result.
P.S. I am not opposed to reform in the way that we nominate/vote. For instance, I think it would be salutary to require a nomination to be seconded, and both the nominator and the "second"-er to write a sentence or two why they did so.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted 01 November 2010 - 09:38 AM
You know this isn't the voting thread, right? I mean, just because you have Pi on the brain every post doesn't have to include it.
I am with the majority on the Top 100 list. I think it best to vote and possibly update/change it every 2, 3, or 5 years. It makes the most sense. This provides time for interested voters/members/others to view films on the list. Plus, the longing for the "new" list every <blank> years will help keep people interested.
I am also on board for Top 10/20/25 lists during the periods when the Top 100 will not be voted on. Maybe a couple lists every year: one by theme and a top 10 of the previous year.