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#21 Anna J

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:09 PM

SDG, I had these for new films (La Promesse is still in):

2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
Amadeus (1984)
Apocalypse Now (1979)
Born Into Brothels (2004)
Code Unknown: Incomplete Tales of Several Journeys (2000)
Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
Dogville (1993)
Double Life of Veronique , The (1991)
Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
How Green Was My Valley (1941)
Iron Giant , The (1999)
Koyaanisqatsi (1982)
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
Make Way for Tomorrow (1937)
Miracle Maker , The (2000)
Night of the Hunter , The (1955)
Nights of Cabiria (1957)
Paprika (2006)
Paths of Glory (1957)
Places in the Heart (1984)
Playtime (1967)
Ran (1985)
Ratcatcher (1999)
Rules of the Game , The (1939)
Schindler's List (1993)
Searchers , The (1956)
Sophie Scholl: die letzten Tag (Sophie Scholl: the Final Days)(2005)
Spirited Away (2001)
Sullivan's Travels (1941)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Trial , The (1962)
Vertigo (1958)

FWIW By Brakhage, Meshes of the Afternoon, and The House is Black were removed because they are short films.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:18 PM

Regarding write-ups for the new list: For the following films ... Koyaanisqatsi, Lawrence of Arabia, Fiddler on the Roof ... paging Mr. Chattaway!

#23 Jason Panella

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:21 PM

Yeah, this list is fantastic. Way to go, everyone!

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:22 PM

Okay, thx Anna. I've corrected my list of new films. Do you have a definitive list of 2010 films we kicked out?

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:24 PM

Can't believe The Rules of the Lame made the list. Ichththth ::inv::

#26 Ryan H.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:25 PM

Couldn't get this to work with the previous post. Here are the detailed results.

I just took a peek at this. SUNSET BOULEVARD was so close to making the cut!

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:47 PM

I'm intrigued by our new #100 pick! I'm so glad The Miracle Maker made it back, but to have four animated movies on the Top 100 is quite a feat. ::w00t::


I'm counting five animated films:
Iron Giant
Spirited Away
Grave of the Fireflies
Paprika
The Miracle Maker

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:50 PM


I'm intrigued by our new #100 pick! I'm so glad The Miracle Maker made it back, but to have four animated movies on the Top 100 is quite a feat. ::w00t::


I'm counting five animated films:
Iron Giant
Spirited Away
Grave of the Fireflies
Paprika
The Miracle Maker

You're right, I missed Paprika (?!!!!! -- whoever blurbs this is going to have a heck of a job)

Edited by David Smedberg, 13 January 2011 - 09:50 PM.


#29 Ryan H.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:55 PM


I'm intrigued by our new #100 pick! I'm so glad The Miracle Maker made it back, but to have four animated movies on the Top 100 is quite a feat. ::w00t::


I'm counting five animated films:
Iron Giant
Spirited Away
Grave of the Fireflies
Paprika
The Miracle Maker

I'm delighted that PAPRIKA, SPIRITED AWAY, and GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES made the cut. I'm a little less pleased with THE MIRACLE MAKER and THE IRON GIANT (I would have much rather seen PINOCCHIO and FANTASIA make our list), but ah well. You can't have it all. Quite a few of my nominees placed, so it would be a bit churlish of me to start complaining. :P

On another note, I find it interesting that IN PRAISE OF LOVE made it last time but placed almost at the very, very bottom this time out.

Edited by Ryan H., 13 January 2011 - 09:59 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:59 PM

Typo Fixed so deleted

PS will you be the one brave enough to blurb Paprika?

Edited by David Smedberg, 13 January 2011 - 10:05 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:00 PM

You have made a typo... I'm presuming that you meant The Miracle Maker the second time, and Spirited Away the first time?

Yep. You're right. Unlike many here, I don't love THE MIRACLE MAKER.

PS will you be the one brave enough to blurb Paprika?

We'll see. I've already asked to blurb four films, so my plate is pretty full.

Edited by Ryan H., 13 January 2011 - 10:47 PM.


#32 David Smedberg

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:09 PM

Here are films I think we've lost ... what am I missing?

1. Autumn Afternoon, An (“Sanma no aji”), 1962, Yasujiro Ozu
2. Beau travail, 1999, Claire Denis
3. Breaking the Waves, 1996, Lars von Trier
4. By Brakhage: An Anthology, 2003, Stan Brakhage
5. Cries and Whispers, 1973, Ingmar Bergman
6. Cyclist, The ("Bicycleran"), 1987, Mohsen Makhmalbaf
7. Derzu Uzala, 1975, Akira Kurosawa
8. Fanny and Alexander ("Fanny och Alexander"), 1982, Ingmar Bergman
9. Goodbye to the Children ("Au Revoir, Les Enfants"), 1987, Louis Malle
10. House is Black,The (Khaneh siah ast), 1964, Forugh Farrokhzad
11. In Praise of Love ("Éloge de l'amour"), 2001, Jean-Luc Godard
12. Killer of Sheep, 1977, Charles Burnett
13. Late Spring ("Banshun"), 1972, Yasujiro Osu
14. Lorna's Silence ("Le silence de Lorna"), 2008, Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne
15. M. Hulot's Holiday("Les vacances de Monsieur Hulot"), 1953, Jacques Tati
16. Meshes in the Afternoon, 1943, Maya Deren and Alexander Hammid
17. Moment of Innocence, A ("Nun va Goldoon"), 1997, Mohsen Makhmalbaf
18. Nostalghia, 1983, Andrei Tarkovsky
19. Open City ("Roma, citta apera"), 1945, Roberto Rossellini
20. Punch-Drunk Love, 2002, Paul Thomas Anderson
21. Rosetta, 1999, Jean-Pierre & Luc Dardenne
22. Sacrifice, The ("Offret-Sacrificatio"), 1986, Andrei Tarkovsky
23. Serious Man, A, 2009, Ethan and Joel Coen
24. Solaris ("Solyaris"), 1972, Andrei Tarkovsky
25. Song of Bernadette, 1943, Henry King
26. Summer / The Green Ray ("Le Rayon vert"), 1986, Eric Rohmer
27. Through a Glass Darkly ("Såsom i en spegel"), 1961, Ingmar Bergman
28. Trial of Joan of Arc, The ("Proces de Jeanne d'Arc"), 1962, Robert Bresson
29. Ushpizin ("The Guests"), 2004, Giddi Dar
30. Virgin Spring, The ("Jungfrukallan"), 1960, Ingmar Bergman
31. Wind Will Carry Us, The ("Bad ma ra khaha bord"), 1999, Abbas Kiarostami

2 more for you:

Frisbee: The Life and Death of a Hippie Preacher, 2005, David Di Sabatino
Son of Man, 2006, Mark Dornford-May

PS I was almost fooled--last year we had The Trial of Joan of Arc (1962), and that is gone just as you've said--but now we have The Trial (1962), the Orson Welles movie, and I had to blink a couple of times before I picked up on the difference.


Edited by David Smedberg, 13 January 2011 - 10:12 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:39 PM

Ouch! on losing A Serious Man and The Wind Will Carry Us.

But I'm happy that Breaking the Waves has been vanquished by Dogville.

Edited by Overstreet, 13 January 2011 - 10:41 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:45 PM

The Albanians got screwed.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:49 PM

The Albanians got screwed.

They're used to it. ;)

I can't for the life of me figure out which movie(s) you're talking about.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:53 PM

Excellent list! Surprised that Ordet knocked out of the #1 spot, but that other Dreyer film is pretty darn good too.

I guess I'm going to have to finally get around to seeing Andrei Rublev.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:03 AM

There are four Robert Bresson films in the top 100:


5 Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
23 Diary of a Country Priest, The (Le Journal D'un Cure De Campagne)
68 Man Escaped, A ("Un condamne a mort s'est eschappe ou Le vent soufflé ou il veut") (1956)
78 Pickpocket (1959)



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#38 J.A.A. Purves

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:32 AM

There are four Robert Bresson films in the top 100:

5 Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
23 Diary of a Country Priest, The (Le Journal D'un Cure De Campagne)
68 Man Escaped, A ("Un condamne a mort s'est eschappe ou Le vent soufflé ou il veut") (1956)
78 Pickpocket (1959)

Whoa, so does that mean The Story of the Weeping Camel gets in after all?

#39 Nathan Douglas

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:37 AM

Absolutely thrilled to see Sophie Scholl and Ran make it and I'm very pleased by The New World's ascent! Still no Varda, though. Oh well.

I'm not sure how I feel about Make Way blazing right to the top. It IS great but...that high, that fast? I don't know.

EDIT: Ok, I do know. I'm uncomfortable with it being in the top 10 so soon after being introduced here, and being re-discovered on a fairly wide scale. I feel the same way about it that I do about new releases that I love. It's impact within the larger film-loving world has yet to really settle.

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#40 David Smedberg

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:43 AM

A quick note on a notable feature of our voting:

One can't help but notice that many, many of the movies in our Top 100 have a significantly lower rating in the poll than the previous year. Ordet, for instance, is ranked 4.38, whereas last year it was ranked 4.73. Ordet moved down two spots, but even our new #1, The Passion of Joan of Arc, which moved up 3 spots, decreased in rating, from 4.57 to 4.44.

In this year's Top 100, by my rough count:

14 movies increased in rating from last year;
9 movies were not voted on last year;
77 movies decreased in rating from last year.

I think the most plausible explanation for this is that fewer movies were voted on, and that we adjusted our voting habits to account for the smaller number of movies. Consider that:

Last year, the average rating, with 369 movies eligible for voting, was 3.29.
This year, the average rating, with 194 movies eligible for voting, was 3.28.

We seem to change our votes relative to what other movies are in competition. A movie which might be a 5 in one poll might be a 4 in another poll.

PS as an elite list, this are the movies that bucked the trend and increased their rating, by my rough calculation. NB some did not make the Top 100, e.g. Amazing Grace which moved up from 317 to 140.

Make Way for Tomorrow (1937) 43.16%
Grave of the Fireflies (1988) 15.17%
Amazing Grace (2006) 13.58%
Miracle Maker , The (2000) 12.03%
Paths of Glory (1957) 11.14%
Apocalypse Now (1979) 8.35%
Places in the Heart (1984) 7.25%
Vertigo (1958) 6.83%
Night of the Hunter , The (1955) 6.12%
Code Unknown: Incomplete Tales of Several Journeys (2000) 5.90%
Nights of Cabiria (1957) 4.93%
Fantasia (1940) 4.74%
Lars and the Real Girl (2007) 3.46%
F for Fake (1973) 3.43%
Iron Giant , The (1999) 3.14%
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) 3.07%
Tender Mercies (1983) 2.51%
Magnolia (1999) 2.28%

Edited by David Smedberg, 14 January 2011 - 12:53 AM.




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