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West Side Story or The Music Man?

M. Dale Prins

West Side Story or The Music Man?  

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: But you know, that opening is most of what I

: remember about West Side Story. So maybe

: my enthusiasm for the flick is all about the first five

: minutes or so?

Yes. You also love "America," of course, because you, being a man of good musical taste, are quite fond of hemiola. But other than that, you are pretty indifferent toward the film, in the same way that my thoughts on Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame tend toward positive even though the film goes drastically downhill after we see the title card. (But those first five minutes!)

: And Meredith's music ain't nothin' to sniff at: the

: song built around the piano lesson is not only fun

: and inventive, but utterly fits the form to the content:

: a musical about music that uses a music lesson to tell

: about the music man.

Yes: see also "Ice cream, ice cream, ice cream!," which uses a slightly different tactic on the same idea. In addition, there's nothing as musically inventive in West Side Story as the verses of "Marian the Librarian," which has the most wack chord progression I've ever heard in a mainstream musical.

: There even are places where English completely disappears.

: Well, in America they haven't used it for years....

Great book, pretty decent score (H. Higgins' numbers especially).


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Dale - I echo your praise of the firt part of Hunchback. The opening is stellar, and I daresay it remains strong until "One Day Out There" with revisits to great at the Heaven's Light/ Hellfire theme. I know lots of folks bemoan the stray from Hugo's original, but who cares! Call it something else, if that will satisfy folks! This thing, especially musically has some real strength.

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Fun-nee stuff, Darrel. smile.gif

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So......West Side Story and Music Man are neck and neck in the polls??!!? Interesting.

Here's an admission: Although I liked Music Man very much when I saw it, Music Man does not hold the same special place in my heart that West Side Story does.

However, it's good that just as many people like one just as much as the other.

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