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Darren H

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  1. The Total Votes column in the spreadsheet I sent yesterday.
  2. For context, the 2012 Sight & Sound Top 100, which is the gold standard, includes two films by women. I'm curious to see how that changes with the next iteration in two years. I know this is the kind of last-minute idea that probably tests Ken's patience, but I think it would be interesting to present the list in chronological order, perhaps with an asterisk next to the 25 films that received the highest scores.
  3. It's still up for discussion, I believe. Once the rules are settled on, I'll probably create another simple form to collect the votes.
  4. Burmese Harp made the list. Aside from it also being one of my favorite films, this is another reason I really wanted What Time is It There? to make the cut. Wish I'd advocated harder for that one.
  5. I thought about this last night and meant to raise it for discussion, so thanks for reminding me! There are a few cases where two films received the same number of points and votes, so the tie went (by default) to the film that came first in the alphabet -- Of Gods and Men over Silence, Sunrise over Two Days, One Night. I don't know if I'll be able to make the call tonight. If not, please work out a better solution.
  6. In the tradition of Jonathan Rosenbaum's alternate list to the AFI 100, I sorted the 350 films by the per-film standard deviation to find the 100 most divisive films, then I re-sorted by weighted score. I didn't take the time to eliminate multiple films by a director. This list has its merits, I think, but then again I gave six points to a lot of these movies. I think it's an interesting illustration of how, even in a small sample size like our forum, consensus opinion shapes the canon. I won't say it's a better list, but it might make for more interesting conversations. The Tree of Life (2011) The Miracle Maker (2000) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) A Man for All Seasons (1966) The Mirror (1975) The Grapes of Wrath (1940) The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) Certified Copy (2010) Dead Man Walking (1995) Winter Light (1963) Lourdes (2009) The Mill and the Cross (2011) Stop Making Sense (1984) Embrace of the Serpent (2015) In Praise of Love (2001) Summer (1986) The Music Room (1958) Mass Appeal (1984) The Banishment (2007) Calvary (2014) Vertigo (1958) Amadeus (1984) Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) Magnolia (1999) 7th Heaven (1927) Silent Light (2007) Selma (2014) Places in the Heart (1984) From the East (1993) Journey to Italy (1954) Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (2010) Fearless (1993) Mothlight (1963) The Assassin (2015) The Island (2006) By the Grace of God (2019) Wadjda (2012) Endless Poetry (2016) WALL-E (2008) The Double Life of Veronique (1991) Fireworks Wednesday (2006) Only Angels Have Wings (1939) Blue Velvet (1986) Moonrise Kingdom (2012) Singin’ in the Rain (1952) Kagemusha (1980) World of Tomorrow (2015) Dekalog III (1989) Under the Sun of Satan (1987) Where Are My Children? (1916) Walker (2012) The Exorcist (1973) Dead Man (1995) Stories We Tell (2012) Chimes at Midnight (1965) Cries and Whispers (1972) This Transient Life (1970) Noah (2014) Adam's Apples (2005) Yella (2007) The Celluloid Closet (1995) AI Artificial Intelligence (2001) Wavelength (1967) Wanda (1970) There Will Be Blood (2007) The Shop on Main Street (1965) Meshes of the Afternoon (1943) E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) The Fountain (2006) Voyage to the End of the Universe (1963) The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) The Witch (2015) Museum Hours (2012) Samurai Rebellion (1967) A River Runs Through It (1992) Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me (1992) Beyond the Hills (2012) Daughters of the Dust (1991) Tuesday, After Christmas (2010) Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019) Boyhood (2014) Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) The Way (2010) All That Jazz (1979) It’s Such A Beautiful Day (2012) Breaking the Waves (1996) The Wicker Man (1973) Personal Shopper (2016) The Dark Crystal (1982) Upstream Color (2013) Smoke Signals (1998) Harriet (2019) The Year of Living Dangerously (1982) Interstellar (2014) Harold and Maude (1971) Cloud Atlas (2012) Dancer in the Dark (2000) Carol (2015) Fever Pitch (1997) Funny Games (1997)
  7. Out of curiosity, I sorted the list by per-film standard deviation, found the 100 most divisive films, and then re-sorted them by weighted average. My thinking is that it would be something like Jonathan Rosenbaum's alternative list to the AFI 100 and also a way of illustrating how, even with a relatively small sample like our forum, the canon is shaped by consensus opinion, which buffs away the rougher edges. I'll post the alt 100 if anyone's curious. I think it has merit and might even make an interesting subject for an article -- but then again I gave 6s to a lot of films on that list (Mothlight is #32)!
  8. The biggest difference between this and past lists is its level of engagement with contemporary world cinema. The main reason I find the one-per-director top 100 so much more interesting is that it makes room for Reygadas, Puiu, Sissako, Jia, Tsai, and Apitchatpong (not to mention classic auteurs Borzage, Spielberg, Kazan, Powell & Pressburger, and Bunuel, who didn't make the cut).
  9. I threw out this scenario earlier. It seems very likely to me.
  10. Lynch has zero films on the list (not surprisingly, Blue Velvet has one of the highest per-film standard deviations!). Kieslowski fared a bit better.
  11. Just to clarify, Ken, the plan is for me to send out the top 100 today via email, correct?
  12. Fwiw, I just did a one-per-director version of the top 100 and I think it's a lot more compelling. Even with that tweak, the list still doesn't include any experimental films, which is my one major disappointment with the results.
  13. Rohmer is actually the filmmaker who was affected by the decision to stick with 5 votes as the cutoff point. PT Anderson has only one film in the top 100.
  14. > When we announce the results tomorrow, can we include the third and fourth (and maybe fifth) films by directors where they originally fell? I'm very curious to see the difference the two films per director rule made. Looks like there are 18 directors with two films in the top 100. Thirteen of those had additional films that I cut out of the list.
  15. > Takes deep breath. Closes eyes. Utters a silent prayer that Film 100 not be Rounders or Fever Pitch....nods in assent. Turns out the film that jumped into the top 100 is the second film by a director, so the bumped film is actually his third highest point getter (which I'm a little bummed about). I want to do a couple more error checks before sharing anything, but it's looking like the #100 film is . . . . . . and I'm not making this up . . . . . . Magnolia!
  16. We now have two Dreyers, two Malicks, and two Tarkovskys in the top 9! Come on people, distribute your points!
  17. Looks like the difference would affect two slots in the top 100 -- a film that would make the cut with the 5-film rule and the film that would be bumped out of the 100 spot. The second standard deviation technically still puts the cutoff at 5, so I'm okay with your suggestion, Ken. (I haven't seen the film that is most directly affected by the change.)
  18. Adding the two voters shifts it to a "six vote minimum" rule.
  19. > I'm guessing part of the reason for all those films finishing that high is half of us feel one of them deserves a 6 with the other deserving a 5 or 4, and the other half of us feel the opposite way, so it will be interesting to see what happens with ranking the top 25. A likely scenario would be we split our new votes for Dreyer, so neither Ordet nor Passion end up in the top slot, which doesn't seem right either.
  20. For some reason, the diversity of the list matters more to me this time through because I know it will be in a book. I keep imaging flipping through a coffee-table-style book (knowing it won't be) from front to back and not wanting to see the same directors mentioned twice in the first 25 pages.
  21. > Does adding those votes fix the top 25 at all? I'll have to rerun the numbers, but I'm sure it won't fix the top 25. Might also need to adjust the cutoff point. I'll work on it during my lunch break.
  22. If we apply that rule it will also affect Bresson and the Dardennes -- again, to absolutely no one's surprise. Although I am a bit surprised by which Bresson films made the cut. And, yes, I'm going to keep teasing results throughout the day!
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