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Goodnight Tuesday

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  1. Thanks. Those last two posts have encouraged me to continue visiting this site. It's a funny thing feeling 'needy' and being transparent about it. It's something I've never been before. I find that when people sense this about someone, they tend to back away, asuming that the person is a trouble causer after attention. Thanks for not doing this, you may have saved me from a future in crime...
  2. As you might guess from the tools and the remote, Simon's a fan of Bob the Builder.
  3. I Love your artwork. Surprised you have time for gardening...

    I hold a similar view about the need for the christian artist to reveal the transendental

    my website is http://www.emilygarces.com

  4. These things amaze me. The only thing that would amaze me more is if he's right... The man's 90 years old. A lot of people that age still have their wits about them. He's obviously lost a few. Someone should have a kind word. In my experience obsessing like this can be a sign of mental disfunction. May God have mercy on his soul.
  5. I've always liked Kierkegaard's distinction between Christianity and Christendom. Me too Looked into the books (Amazon) The one about evangelicalism was a little over my budget (I am a poor artist, and my husband is in a band) I liked the look of Mere Churchianity, but then read this review: "for those who have been hurt by their experience in the local church, my concern is that this book would become a tool to nurture any lingering resentment that may exist in their hearts." I want to read things that challenge me to change, not make me sit smugly in my eronious mentality. 'I started reading church, why bother' by Yancey... but didnt get too far. I need to finish the stripping away of my old view of religion and to start to write new things on the page of mind - which now sits, somewhat awkwardly, blank. So, what should I read? Thank you for your patience with me!
  6. I like you people. I do really. I'll read the books you recommended. I know my attitude to church is pretty screwed up. Was good to hear good things said about it. Especially the historical stuff. I'm pretty hurt and am frustrated that wounds take so long to heal... 7 years ago I left the mission field after 5 years in South America with a bad case of burnout. Thought I'd be OK in 12 months, but nope. The journey's long and uphill it seems. Sorry for posting before joining in with other posts a little more, that was obnoxious. But born more out of desperation that arrogance. But I'm teachable and admit mistakes quickly. Really hoping to learn alot from you all...
  7. Thank you. It is my artwork. I agree with what you say. I don't necesarily agree with all that I said. I wrote it a while back and I guess how I feel about things changes from day to day I love that you talk about keeping an open mind and to consider other denonimations. It is refreshing when people talk like that. I'm going to an Anglican church from time to time now... there is a Woman Vicar with a wicked sense of humour. My mind is very open at the moment; perhaps even too much so... What did you think when I said that Church and the kingdom of God are not necessarily the same thing? Do you thing that's true? Or maybe something that isn't black and white?
  8. Wants to meet real people on the internet who want to help each other out; not push each other down with interlectual superiority...

  9. Sorry about the paragraphs. I pasted it and tried and failed to put them in. You are the first person to reply to any of my posts. The first response to my attempts at being open about my feelings and opinions. I have tried recently to go back to church but no one bothers to connect with me. Hiding instead behind flashy worship and playing quiz games in home groups. I see this forum as somewhere I hope to be able to connect with people in openness. It had, until your comments, given me hope. I plead with you to be gentle with me and not to shoot me down. I'm clutching onto straws here. Seriously.
  10. The church through history has hurt more people than it has loved and won more wars than hearts. It's painful to think about; but it's history, right? We can't change it. What then do we do if we realise that today is tomorrow's history? That maybe there's still time to change it? Will the war in Iraq be viewed as we now see the Vietnam war in future years? Will the errors of the modern church become more evident in a couple of centuries? I know that the underground church in the East undergoes real suffering. That it forced out of sight to preserve its freedom from the control of government run churches and to escape persecution. My question is this: Does such a church exist in the west? Not a people who undergo such extremes of suffering, as say those in China, but a people who have no home in the modern day church as it stands... Freethinking Artists: In need of a loose structure and space to be themselves.Seekers of genuine friendship: Tired of keeping up appearances.The broken and damaged: Finding they are brushed under the carpet with textbook answers that provide little comfort.The burnt out: Have served themselves dry and found that the church is disappointed that they lack the strength to continue.Lovers of the world: Delight in the beauty of their existence and want to engage with the world they live in, have non-christian friends, burn barriers between religion and reality, sacred and secular.Facilitators of Change: See the fresh movements of God's spirit in the world and want to follow without being held back by structure and tradition that lacks relevance. I leave no space here for those who think that the world exists to revolve around them and that they have the right to put their feet up and have the church cater to their every need. I speak of those who want an outlet for their love. Who understand that God is love. Who know that where there is no love, there is no God. Those whose patience with loveless Christians who claim to know God has run dry; completely dry... I believe that the kingdom of God can be stifled by institution. That when it is pushed down it bursts up in unusual places. That when it appears to have died; seeds will spring up. That it is unstoppable. However, there is one thing that it cannot be, and that is ugly. It cannot be brash, or gaudy, or selfish, or condemning, or false; saying one thing and thinking another. It cannot give and expect anything in return, or give and not enjoy doing so. It cannot, indeed, live without enjoying doing so. I believe, sadly, that the church is not the same thing as the kingdom of God.
  11. So happy to have found this site. I'll be looking out for your acts of defiance and quite subversion...

  12. I'm glad Charlie Peacock snuck in between Queen and Wilco. Hope he's happy there.

    I'm new to this site and am very excited about it!

  13. We've moved to a nice village with a big garden. I've built a wig wam for beans to grow up and children to go in. I've dragged tree trunks into the garden to build raised beds. First time I've grown veg and I'm probably overly optimistic about the results... we'll see. I've been out this evening gathering slugs and throwing them to the ducks on the lake that backs onto our garden. So whatever the results I'm definately having fun!
  14. In it, as well as a couple of the other sections, I find Yancey doing what I think is his most valuable service: reminding his readers in an almost prophetic manner that 21st century American Evangelicalism is not the pinnacle of Christianity, but rather, that Christianity is a global phenomena and that there are places where the Spirit is moving far more powerfully.
  15. The other day my 4 year old asked me what day of the week it was. I told him that it was Sunday. He snorted and pointed out that there was no sun so of course it wasnt sunday.... I love him
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