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A& F Top 25 Films 2017 Discussion

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We may be able to push the deadline back a bit to allow for more discussion. 

These have been stressful weeks for me and I haven't been able to devote as much headspace to the list as I would like. I'm sure some of to feel the same way. 

How about a Top 25 about cultural conflict? 

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We could do "Crime and Punishment while Coming of Age in Small Towns" and just have The Night of the Hunter as our list.

These are all excellent topics, and ones which could elicit good discussion and interesting film choices. I'm still a strong advocate for "Coming of Age," but I am also intrigued by Jeremy's suggestion of "Waking Up," as well as the "Crime and Punishment" theme.

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Joel Mayward wrote:
: We could do "Crime and Punishment while Coming of Age in Small Towns" and just have The Night of the Hunter as our list.

Brilliant.

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7 hours ago, Ryan H. said:

How about a Top 25 about cultural conflict? 

Ooh. I like that.

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On 1/23/2017 at 6:44 PM, Darryl A. Armstrong said:

Ooh. I like that.

I think there's a lot of potential there. It kinda captures the zeitgeist without limiting us to it. 

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Consider The Top 25 about cultural conflict to have my vote.

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On 1/23/2017 at 8:13 AM, Ryan H. said:

How about a Top 25 about cultural conflict? 

I like this a lot too, but I think it needs a bit more teasing out, definition, and explanation. For example, I'd be much more interested in "Top 25 Films on Encountering the Other" rather than "Top 25 Films about Worldview Debates," if that makes sense.

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Hm.

I'm thinking more in terms of "cultural upheaval." Moments where society's status quo is strained or shattered and factions are formed as a result.

"Encountering the Other" isn't a bad idea on its own, but it suggests something different.

To cite one example, CABARET is a film about cultural upheaval. It's not really a film about encountering "the Other."

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1 hour ago, Ryan H. said:

Hm.

I'm thinking more in terms of "cultural upheaval." Moments where society's status quo is strained or shattered and factions are formed as a result.

I nominate the Lynch Dune.

...seriously, though, cultural upheaval would be an interesting direction to go. I can dig it.

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3 hours ago, Ryan H. said:

Hm.

I'm thinking more in terms of "cultural upheaval." Moments where society's status quo is strained or shattered and factions are formed as a result.

"Encountering the Other" isn't a bad idea on its own, but it suggests something different.

To cite one example, CABARET is a film about cultural upheaval. It's not really a film about encountering "the Other."

Ryan, thanks for clarifying, and citing Cabaret as an example is a helpful distinction. I also like "Films on Encountering the Other," but the idea of cultural upheaval is interesting on a number of levels. Lots of good possibilities for films.

We've gathered a lot of unique and brilliant potential list ideas in this thread.

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8 hours ago, NBooth said:

I nominate the Lynch Dune.

Yes! No need to stick with real-world cultural upheaval. 

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If we're talking about cultural upheaval and the end of an age, surely Jackson's Lord of the Rings films deserve some consideration. The end of the Third Age and all that.

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On 12/18/2016 at 6:02 PM, kenmorefield said:

This is something that would obviously require permission/discussion with Greg, but would anyone be interested in doing a book companion to a Top 100? 

I mentioned in another thread that the publisher for F&S in Masters of World Cinema asked me to pitch another project a few months ago. I did a CFP for a Koreeda book along with a colleague but it didn't get enough responses. They like anthologies/group publications, and I know there are a number of academics here (or budding academics) who might like a publication. 

Probably wouldn't have space for full essays on a full 100 films, but could do a mix of essays and reviews, or full reviews of all (as opposed to blurbs). 

I've got other projects I could work on, of course, but given the vagaries of the Internet world it might be nice to have something slightly more concrete in case the web site ever went away. 

 

Edit: None of the anthologies I've done have made any money (cost, price, limited audience), but I'd certainly be willing to work out something where royalties (if any) went back to Image to defray web site support.

 

I think this would work extremely well for Image as long as the book is constructed in a specific way. Working through 100 films that were selected by a voting process one specific year would lead to a really diffuse collection. But I am familiar with a recent volume from an Episcopalian church and culture non-profit organization that was excellent because even though it is basically a survey of a bunch of random films by different authors, the parameters were set well. This resulted in a tight, focused, and helpful volume that I have dipped into several times even though I am really overly picky about film books.

I would be happy to talk at some point about how that might all need to be shaped by editors to ensure the volume would actually sell - or at least be attractive to Image's typical audience. And if offered digitally, that would certainly enhance the ROI question for all involved.

 

Edited by M. Leary

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On 2/1/2017 at 10:55 AM, Anders said:

If we're talking about cultural upheaval and the end of an age, surely Jackson's Lord of the Rings films deserve some consideration. The end of the Third Age and all that.

Oh, very much so.

Fantasy and sci-fi is rife with storytelling of this sort.

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About the topics that are most exciting:

Cultural upheaval = awesome

Waking up = perhaps even moreso

Edited by Brian D

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So have things settled enough that we are ready to devote our attention to this? 

Speaking for myself, I'm ready.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Arkadin said:

So have things settled enough that we are ready to devote our attention to this? 

Speaking for myself, I'm ready.

Me too.

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On 2/12/2017 at 7:36 AM, Mr. Arkadin said:

So have things settled enough that we are ready to devote our attention to this? 

Speaking for myself, I'm ready.

Sounds good to me.

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