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Christian is not the only one who has mentioned the use of "11" for Honorable Mention. Right now the app *requires* a numerical value, but I may ask developer about that. 

Joel and Andrew also consulted by e-mail. I am waffling about the *introduction* space. I asked for it, but I agree that I think the space overall looks cleaner and better if it just gives us the list. That makes me wonder -- where to put prefatory material for past or future lists. 

This issue probably comes up because some lists (Top 25s, EJ have been published elsewhere -- Image/Transpositions) but the forthcoming EJ list is being published here. So I'm tempted to say, let's make A&F the depository for the *lists* (which includes blurbs of individual films) but not necessarily for the the introductions/essays about the lists...still there are some nice intros to past Top 25s. 

Other thoughts?

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16 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

let's make A&F the depository for the *lists* (which includes blurbs of individual films) but not necessarily for the the introductions/essays about the lists

This makes sense to me, and (at least for Transpositions—I can't speak for Image) those introductions should still be available at the places they were originally published, right? It does look cleaner without the intro paragraph.

Thanks again for all your work on this, Ken. I imagine there's a lot more going on behind the scenes with this stuff, and your care and curation for the website is greatly appreciated.

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2 hours ago, Andrew said:

So, at the top of the list, would you have something to the effect of "The introduction to the list can be found here," with a link to the intro in the word 'here'?  I would think something like that would be necessary.

Yes. That is what we have now with sample, though I noticed on my phone that the text doesn't necessarily show up as a link, so it may be worth writing out the URL. I think one or two lines doesn't push the beginning of the list off the bottom of the screen so that you have to scroll down to see that it is a list. 

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3 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

Yes. That is what we have now with sample, though I noticed on my phone that the text doesn't necessarily show up as a link, so it may be worth writing out the URL. I think one or two lines doesn't push the beginning of the list off the bottom of the screen so that you have to scroll down to see that it is a list. 

Ah, I see.  Yeah, it isn't clearly a link, since the font wasn't a different color or underlined, etc.  Would something like "Results and full article were originally published at..." be more accurate and comprehensive?  And I'll second Joel:  thank you, Ken, for doing this.  

To be an artist is never to avert one's eyes.
- Akira Kurosawa

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Possibly, though I'm inclined to be as minimalist as possible here since the format won't always be the same. But a link directly under title can direct readers to a discussion thread or a post where introductory comments are made.

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I am slowly trying to transfer content from old format to new list app. I note that the entry for Dogvill (#91) on the 2011 list has SDG's write up for a different film. If anyone wants to write a blurb for Dogville, feel free to send it to me. 

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The 2011 List is now done via the app: http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/films/year/4-2011-top-100/

I don't expect anyone to delete old links, and I realize some don't like the layout or look as much as the old Image-branded pages, but I would count it a courtesy if links to the list go here. It's important to get as many of the lists and Ecumenical Jury lists in one place for archiving since we have no control over other sites, and that's really one of the main reasons I acquired the site. It seems like from recent threads that archival preservation is important to a lot of people, so I think, eventually, this app will be nice at having the lists easy to navigate. Plus each one has a direct link to the discussion thread (if there is one).

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Our tech guy added a randomizer to the landing page for lists so that it now displays random films from lists rather than always the same ones. I like this:

http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/films/

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I clicked the link and liked what I saw, but when I clicked on the link from that page to The Rider, it gave me a description of Won't You Be My Neighbor?

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"What matters are movies, not awards; experiences, not celebrations; the subjective power of individual critical points of view, not the declamatory compromises of consensus." - Richard Brody, "Godard's Surprise Win Is a Victory for Independent Cinema," The New Yorker

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2 hours ago, Christian said:

I clicked the link and liked what I saw, but when I clicked on the link from that page to The Rider, it gave me a description of Won't You Be My Neighbor?

Thanks for letting me know. Oddly, this one takes me to The Rider, so I'm having a little trouble duplicating it, but I'll keep my eye out. I appreciate your testing it as specific info helps me speak to the developer.

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2 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

Thanks for letting me know. Oddly, this one takes me to The Rider, so I'm having a little trouble duplicating it, but I'll keep my eye out. I appreciate your testing it as specific info helps me speak to the developer.

I just checked that embedded link again, and to be clear, it takes me to page titled "The Rider," with a jpeg from "The Rider." But the descriptive text reads:

No film of any genre spoke to me like the documentary Won’t You Be My Neighbor? This multi-award winning documentary explores life through historical context, political upheavals, and cultural divides. It asks, ‘Where do we fit into a world of uncertainties, change and division?’

Offered through the seemingly unlikely and unique lens of the legendary Mr Fred Rogers, we discover that his decades of reaching out to children through Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood provided something far more distinct and introspective than simply teaching numbers and colours. Fred Rogers sought to offer anyone who chose to listen (children and adults alike) lessons for life. He addressed concerns about our society and offered critical examinations of who we are, why we are, and how to begin to understand what divides us. Rogers felt that if we explore those questions, we may come to appreciate what should unite us.

Won’t You Be My Neighbor? is a film that offers a voice of hope, compassion, and healing. Wrapped within the unique leadership of a man whose messages are for all ages, races, cultures, and economic classes, we are reminded that these themes are as relevant today as they were 50+ years ago. In our politically charged and socially-manipulated world that seems to be surrounded by misinformation, hate, and anger, it’s possible we could all use a little more of Mr Rogers in our lives. If the leaders of the world (and everyday citizens for that matter) would take the time to view this slice of cinema and commit to the morals exhibited, we’d all be in a much better place.

– Noel T. Manning

Do you see different text on the linked page?

"What matters are movies, not awards; experiences, not celebrations; the subjective power of individual critical points of view, not the declamatory compromises of consensus." - Richard Brody, "Godard's Surprise Win Is a Victory for Independent Cinema," The New Yorker

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2 hours ago, Christian said:

I just checked that embedded link again, and to be clear, it takes me to page titled "The Rider," with a jpeg from "The Rider." But the descriptive text reads:

No film of any genre spoke to me like the documentary Won’t You Be My Neighbor? This multi-award winning documentary explores life through historical context, political upheavals, and cultural divides. It asks, ‘Where do we fit into a world of uncertainties, change and division?’

Offered through the seemingly unlikely and unique lens of the legendary Mr Fred Rogers, we discover that his decades of reaching out to children through Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood provided something far more distinct and introspective than simply teaching numbers and colours. Fred Rogers sought to offer anyone who chose to listen (children and adults alike) lessons for life. He addressed concerns about our society and offered critical examinations of who we are, why we are, and how to begin to understand what divides us. Rogers felt that if we explore those questions, we may come to appreciate what should unite us.

Won’t You Be My Neighbor? is a film that offers a voice of hope, compassion, and healing. Wrapped within the unique leadership of a man whose messages are for all ages, races, cultures, and economic classes, we are reminded that these themes are as relevant today as they were 50+ years ago. In our politically charged and socially-manipulated world that seems to be surrounded by misinformation, hate, and anger, it’s possible we could all use a little more of Mr Rogers in our lives. If the leaders of the world (and everyday citizens for that matter) would take the time to view this slice of cinema and commit to the morals exhibited, we’d all be in a much better place.

– Noel T. Manning

Do you see different text on the linked page?

Ah that makes more sense. Fixed now. Probably an issue with cut/pasting when updating pages via the app. 

That raises a concern I hadn't thought of for 2020: Most everything I have populated to the app-created lists was printed (and thus stored) elsewhere. I could add the text for The Rider because it is still at Transpositions. If, for the 2020 list, I enter a blurb directly via the app (as I did for Bicycle Thieves) and it eventually gets overwritten by mistake, there is no back up copy.

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Ken, I just noticed that the link for the 2020 Top 100 doesn't work, despite it working just a few days ago. I noticed that the forum interface is different, so perhaps that's affected some of the permanent links? When I use this link for the top 100, I'm redirected to the forum's main page. 

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Thank you for the head's up, Michael.

There was indeed a software update yesterday. I'll look at this tomorrow and see if I can fix it myself (I think I can). If not, I'll talk to our tech guy. 

Sigh. One think I don't much care for in Invision...it's upgrades are clunky if (as we have over the years) one has tweaked the site beyond the basic board. But, on the flip side, it's got fifteen years of tweaks and apps and extensions and pages, so....

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I was able to find the option in the admin dashboard to put the app back in..the update disabled it. 

Lists are now here: http://artsandfaith.com/index.php?/films/

 

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