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This thread will serve as the public announcement of the 2020 list until the list can be populated here. Films 1-25 will be announced on Wednesday, May 27.

  1. Ordet (1955)
  2. Andrei Rublev (1966)
  3. The Tree of Life (2011)
  4. Babette's Feast (1987)
  5. Of Gods and Men (2010)
  6. Silence (2016)
  7. The Kid With a Bike (2011)
  8. Do the Right Thing (1989)
  9. Ikiru (1952)
  10. Diary of a Country Priest (1951)
  11. First Reformed (2017)
  12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
  13. The Miracle Maker (2000)
  14. The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964)
  15. Into Great Silence (2005)
  16. The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)
  17. The Seventh Seal (1957)
  18. Three Colors: Blue (1993)
  19. The Night of the Hunter (1955)
  20. Night and Fog (1956)
  21. It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
  22. Make Way for Tomorrow (1937)
  23. Sunrise (1927)
  24. Sophie Scholl: The Final Days (2005)
  25. Monsieur Vincent (1947)
  26. The House is Black (1963)
  27. My Night at Maud's (1969)
  28. A Man for All Seasons (1966)
  29. Heartbeat Detector (2007)
  30.  A Moment of Innocence (1996)
  31. Close-Up (1990)
  32. To Sleep With Anger (1990)
  33. The Gleaners & I (2000)
  34. Spirited Away (2001)
  35. The Apostle (1997)
  36. The Tree of Wooden Clogs (1978)
  37. The Man Who Planted Trees (1987)
  38. Bicycle Thieves (1948)
  39. The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
  40. Beau Travail (1999)
  41. Munyurangabo (2007)
  42. Secrets and Lies (1996)
  43. Frisco Jenny (1932)
  44. Tokyo Story (1953)
  45. L'Avventura (1960)
  46. Amazing Grace (2018)
  47. Wings of Desire (1987)
  48. The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
  49. Tender Mercies (1983)
  50. The Music Room (1958)
  51. The Song of Bernadette (1943)
  52. Won't You Be My Neighbor? (2018)
  53. Dead Man Walking (1995)
  54. Blade Runner (1962)
  55. A Brighter Summer Day (1991)
  56. The Burmese Harp (1956)
  57. Lourdes (2009)
  58. Cameraperson (2016)
  59. Cave of Forgotten Dreams (2010)
  60. The Mill and the Cross (2011)
  61. Chariots of Fire (1981)
  62. Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
  63. Stop Making Sense (1984)
  64. The Grand Illusion (1937)
  65. Vertigo (1958)
  66. Embrace of the Serpent (2015)
  67. Secret Sunshine (2007)
  68. A Serious Man (2009)
  69. In Praise of Love (2001)
  70. In a Lonely Place (1950)
  71. I Am Not Your Negro (2016)
  72. Calvary (2014)
  73. The Act of Killing (2012)
  74. Ponette (1996)
  75. After Life (1998)
  76. Amadeus (1984)
  77. Witness (1985)
  78. Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989)
  79. The Mission (1986)
  80. At the Death House Door (2008)
  81. Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
  82. Magnolia (1999)
  83. 7th Heaven (1927)
  84. Silent Light (2007)
  85. On the Waterfront (1954)
  86. The Phantom Carriage (1921)
  87. Schindler's List (1993)
  88. The Work (2017)
  89. The Ushpizin (2004)
  90. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
  91. The Immigrant (2013)
  92. Selma (2014)
  93. The Red Shoes (1948)
  94. Timbuktu (2014)
  95. Places in the Heart (1984)
  96. Still Life (2006)
  97. Nazarin (1959)
  98. What Time is It There? (2001)
  99. This is Martin Bonner (2013)
  100. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (2010)

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2 minutes ago, Evan C said:

Were the results of the vote on the two films by one director published anywhere? Or is this the announcement of which ones made it?

Darren posted them in the Round 2 voting thread.

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Just now, kenmorefield said:

Darren posted them in the Round 2 voting thread.

I just saw that. Should have checked that thread first.


"Anyway, in general I love tragic artists, especially classical ones."

"Even the forms for expressing truth can be multiform, and this is indeed necessary for the transmission of the Gospel in its timeless meaning."

- Pope Francis, August 2013 interview with Antonio Spadaro

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So, the earliest film I see is The Phantom Carriage (1921), and the newest films are Amazing Grace (2018) and Won't Your Be My Neighbor? (2018), though Amazing Grace could possibly be considered a 2019 film (that's when I saw it at least). Not quite 100 years of cinema, but pretty close.

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You know, I never got around to talking about this in the nominations phase, but I was surprised at how high The Tree of Wooden Clogs scored given the complete lack of discussion or buzz. Maybe it was one of those films that had a strong core of admirers? 

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2 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

You know, I never got around to talking about this in the nominations phase, but I was surprised at how high The Tree of Wooden Clogs scored given the complete lack of discussion or buzz. Maybe it was one of those films that had a strong core of admirers? 

It's because it has the Ted Baehr seal of approval!

Seriously, I once interviewed Baehr for a school paper I was writing on Christian film criticism, and I remember asking him about his high praise for this particular film, which I'd seen on VHS and had admired greatly. I think he said he knew Olmi, or had spoken to him in the past - I got the impression they were friendly with one another, or maybe that Olmi had been awarded at one of those Movieguide banquets or whatever. But this is, admittedly,  a very hazy memory.


"What matters are movies, not awards; experiences, not celebrations; the subjective power of individual critical points of view, not the declamatory compromises of consensus." - Richard Brody, "Godard's Surprise Win Is a Victory for Independent Cinema," The New Yorker

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I felt like my noms didn't do well, but when I went back and checked, I actually had 8 noms make the final list (and another 2 that would have made the 2 director list), that's 40%.

At the Death House Door (2008)
L'Avventura (1960)
Blade Runner (1982)
First Reformed (2017)
A Man Escaped (1956)
A Man for All Seasons (1966)
The Man Who Planted Trees (1987)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Ordet (1955)
Two Days, One Night (2014)
 

Still a little sad that By The Grace of God did not find it's audience.

 

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I started to put this in the CFP thread but decided it belonged here:

Speaking of chapters, Rushmore's incredibly helpful spreadsheet of all A&F lists, got me thinking. Without looking at his spreadsheet, if I were to tell you that  20  films had made all six Top 100 lists from 2004-2020, how many of them could you guess:

 

Andrei Rublev

The Apostle

 Babette's Feast

Bicycle Thieves

Chariots of Fire

Close-Up

Diary of a Country Priest

The Gospel According to St. Matthew

Ikiru

It's a Wonderful Life

Magnolia

A Man for All Seasons

My Night at Maud's

Ordet

Ponette

The Seventh Seal]

Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans

Tender Mercies

Three Colors: Blue

Tokyo Story

Wings of Desire

I am interested in the ones that aren't associated with canonical auteurs.

FYI: Here are the films whose streak ended in 2020:

  • Au haszard Balthazar
  • Day of Wrath'
  • Dekalog
  • Jesus of Montreal
  • A Man Escaped
  • Mirror
  • The Passion of Joan of Arc
  • The Son
  • Stalker
  • The Straight Story
  • Three Colors: Red
  • Three Colors: White
  •  
  • Obviously most of those are victims of director limits, and Dekalog and Three Colors are explainable in that context as well. I've already opined that The Straight Story was probably impacted by the process and Blue Velvet siphoning votes but being more divisive. That leaves Jesus of Montreal as the film that we nominated (I think) but didn't keep.

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5 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

Without looking at his spreadsheet, if I were to tell you that  20  films had made all six Top 100 lists from 2004-2020, how many of them could you guess

I wasn't too surprised when I checked the results here, but I *am* still puzzled by the consistent appearance of some of the films, particularly the ones with Robert Duvall. Also, looking at Rushmore's amazing list of lists, it had somehow escaped me that the Dardennes' Rosetta was #1 on the Top 100 in 2005, which appears to be the only time a Dreyer film wasn't in the top spot!

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11 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

Speaking of chapters, Rushmore's incredibly helpful spreadsheet of all A&F lists, got me thinking. Without looking at his spreadsheet, if I were to tell you that  20  films had made all six Top 100 lists from 2004-2020, how many of them could you guess:

I'll check after posting this.

  1. A Man for All Seasons
  2. Ordet
  3. Andrei Rublev
  4. Three Colors: Blue (as a member of the trilogy and on this list)
  5. Babette's Feast
  6. Diary of a Country Priest
  7. The Seventh Seal
  8. Gospel According to St. Matthew
  9. The Flowers of St. Francis
  10. 2001: A Space Odyssey
  11. The Night of the Hunter
  12. The Mission
  13. Wings of Desire
  14. Tokyo Story
  15. The Apostle
  16. The Burmese Harp
  17. Grave of the Fireflies
  18. Schindler's List
  19. It's a Wonderful Life
  20. Sunrise

ETA: 13/20, not terrible.

Edited by Evan C

"Anyway, in general I love tragic artists, especially classical ones."

"Even the forms for expressing truth can be multiform, and this is indeed necessary for the transmission of the Gospel in its timeless meaning."

- Pope Francis, August 2013 interview with Antonio Spadaro

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12 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

I started to put this in the CFP thread but decided it belonged here:

Speaking of chapters, Rushmore's incredibly helpful spreadsheet of all A&F lists, got me thinking. Without looking at his spreadsheet, if I were to tell you that  20  films had made all six Top 100 lists from 2004-2020, how many of them could you guess:

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I am interested in the ones that aren't associated with canonical auteurs.

FYI: Here are the films whose streak ended in 2020:

  • Au haszard Balthazar
  • Day of Wrath'
  • Dekalog
  • Jesus of Montreal
  • A Man Escaped
  • Mirror
  • The Passion of Joan of Arc
  • The Son
  • Stalker
  • The Straight Story
  • Three Colors: Red
  • Three Colors: White
  •  
  • Obviously most of those are victims of director limits, and Dekalog and Three Colors are explainable in that context as well. I've already opined that The Straight Story was probably impacted by the process and Blue Velvet siphoning votes but being more divisive. That leaves Jesus of Montreal as the film that we nominated (I think) but didn't keep.

Forgot about Yi Yi. 
Perhaps that is because we went with a different Yang film, but....

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16 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

FYI: Here are the films whose streak ended in 2020:

Here are the films that had been on the previous five Top 100s by how they fell off the 2020 list, which I think is interesting:

Ineligible due to nominations rule change:

  • Dekalog
  • Three Colors (as a trilogy)

Not nominated:

  • The Straight Story
  • Three Colors: Red
  • Three Colors: White
  • Yi Yi
  • The Straight Story

Not voted into 2020 Top 100:

  • Jesus of Montreal
  • Wild Strawberries

Voted into 2020 Top 100, but Director's third or fourth film:

  • Au Hasard Balthazar
  • Day of Wrath
  • Mirror
  • The Promise

Director's second film in 2020 runoff:

  • The Passion of Joan of Arc
  • The Son
  • Stalker
  • A Man Escaped

 

By the way, I got 16/20 that remained on all lists, but I'd been looking at the list during nominations. Here it is again:

http://decentfilms.com/blog/2011-arts-faith-top-100

Interesting that SDG listed the films in ranked order according to how high on average they'd placed on the ranked Top 100s. The films ranked 2-5 all dropped off in this iteration!

Our list contains 19 out of the 45 on the 1995 Vatican "Important Films" list. http://www.decentfilms.com/articles/vaticanfilmlist

I came across a coffee table book called 75 Masterpieces Every Christian Should Know by Terry Glaspey, and it contains 6 films:

  • The Passion of Joan of Arc 
  • Rome, Open City 
  • It’s A Wonderful Life 
  • Au Hasard Balthazar 
  • Andrei Rublev 
  • The Tree of Life 

Our list has 3 of those, but it would have had them all highly ranked without the limit of films per director.

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In addition to those 16 films that had been on all the previous Top 100 lists but dropped off in 2020, and so have been on 5 of the six lists, there are a handful that had been on all but one of the previous lists but are now back on the 2020 version. They too have been on five of the six Top 100 lists.

  • The Miracle Maker 
  • The Flowers of St. Francis 
  • Schindler’s List 
  • Night of the Hunter 
  • Crimes & Misdemeanors 

Looks like Faust and Rome, Open City would have also been on all but one list with the 2 films/director list.

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I had forgotten until populating the 2020 List via the app that Christine Cynn is credited with co-directing The Act of Killing (73), so I guess that increases the number of female directors on the 2020 list from 7 to 8 (or films directed from 7 to 7 1/3). 

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If they made it today Elisabeth Perceval would probably be credited as co-director of Heartbeat Detector. She and Klotz have been making films together for almost 30 years but it's only been in the last few that she's taken a director credit in addition to screenwriter.

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Here's the top 25. The number after each title represents the slots it moved because of the final round of voting. The big winner is The Seventh Seal, which jumped eight slots. No other film moved more than four slots. I was happy to see there were no ties.

The most interesting facet of this round is that many of us appear to have voted strategically in hopes of causing more significant moves, but for every person giving Three Colors: Blue a 1, there were two people giving it 23, so it ended up in the same slot. 2001 is the most divisive film, with a standard deviation of 8.1 (average is 6.1). Five people gave it 24 or 25 but nine people put it in the top seven, so it ended up climbing four slots.

The only other two films that fell out of the standard range of consensus are Of Gods and Men and First Reformed. The four films that we are in most agreement about are Andrei Rublev (deviation of only 3.8), Into Great Silence, The Flowers of St. Francis, and Make Way for Tomorrow.

All in all, I'd say this looks like an Arts & Faith Top 25.

1. Ordet (1955) 0
2. Andrei Rublev (1966) 0
3. The Tree of Life (2011) +2
4. Babette's Feast (1987) +2
5. Of Gods and Men (2010) -2
6. Silence (2016) -2
7. The Kid With a Bike (2011) 0
8. Do the Right Thing (1989) 0
9. Ikiru (1952) +1
10. Diary of a Country Priest (1951) +1
11. First Reformed (2017) -2
12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) +4
13. The Miracle Maker (2000) +1
14. The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964) -1
15. Into Great Silence (2005) -3
16. The Flowers of St. Francis (1950) -1
17. The Seventh Seal (1957) +8
18. Three Colors: Blue (1993) 0
19. The Night of the Hunter (1955) -2
20. Night and Fog (1956) -1
21. It's a Wonderful Life (1946) +2
22. Make Way for Tomorrow (1937) 0
23. Sunrise (1927) +1
24. Sophie Scholl: The Final Days (2005) -4
25. Monsieur Vincent (1947) -4

Edited by Darren H

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34 minutes ago, Darren H said:

Here's the top 25. The number after each title represents the slots it moved because of the final round of voting. The big winner is The Seventh Seal, which jumped eight slots. No other film moved more than four slots. I was happy to see there were no ties.

The most interesting facet of this round is that many of us appear to have voted strategically in hopes of causing more significant moves, but for every person giving Three Colors: Blue a 1, there were two people giving it 23, so it ended up in the same slot. 2001 is the most divisive film, with a standard deviation of 8.1 (average is 6.1). Five people gave it 24 or 25 but nine people put it in the top seven, so it ended up climbing four slots.

The only other two films that fell out of the standard range of consensus are Of Gods and Men and First Reformed. The four films that we are in most agreement about are Andrei Rublev (deviation of only 3.8), Into Great Silence, The Flowers of St. Francis, and Make Way for Tomorrow.

All in all, I'd say this looks like an Arts & Faith Top 25.

1. Ordet (1955) 0
2. Andrei Rublev (1966) 0
3. The Tree of Life (2011) +2
4. Babette's Feast (1987) +2
5. Of Gods and Men (2010) -2
6. Silence (2016) -2
7. The Kid With a Bike (2011) 0
8. Do the Right Thing (1989) 0
9. Ikiru (1952) +1
10. Diary of a Country Priest (1951) +1
11. First Reformed (2017) -2
12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) +4
13. The Miracle Maker (2000) +1
14. The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1964) -1
15. Into Great Silence (2005) -3
16. The Flowers of St. Francis (1950) -1
17. The Seventh Seal (1957) +8
18. Three Colors: Blue (1993) 0
19. The Night of the Hunter (1955) -2
20. Night and Fog (1956) -1
21. It's a Wonderful Life (1946) +2
22. Make Way for Tomorrow (1937) 0
23. Sunrise (1927) +1
24. Sophie Scholl: The Final Days (2005) -4
25. Monsieur Vincent (1947) -4

Thank you for organizing that. This feels right to me. Not everything was as I voted, but I think this is a more accurate reflection of the community consensus.and I appreciate everyone taking the extra time to do the Round 3.

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1 hour ago, Darren H said:

All in all, I'd say this looks like an Arts & Faith Top 25.

I third that sentiment. Thanks again for all your work in organizing this, Darren!


"Anyway, in general I love tragic artists, especially classical ones."

"Even the forms for expressing truth can be multiform, and this is indeed necessary for the transmission of the Gospel in its timeless meaning."

- Pope Francis, August 2013 interview with Antonio Spadaro

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With multiple voters no way to manipulate such results intentionally, but it pleases me that First Reformed is slotted right behind Diary of a Country Priest. 

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Such a nice list you all have made this time around. I look forward to seeing the page and the write ups. 


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This list feels worth the extra work everyone put in. A lot of the choices make very arguable sense, in terms of the one film per director rationale. It is very reflective of A&F conversation.


"...the vivid crossing of borders between film and theology may save the film from the banality of cinema and festival business, and it may also save the church from the deep sleep of the habitual and the always known."

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2 hours ago, kenmorefield said:

With multiple voters no way to manipulate such results intentionally, but it pleases me that First Reformed is slotted right behind Diary of a Country Priest. 

I noticed this too. And the two Jesus films—The Miracle Maker and The Gospel According to St Matthew—are still next to each other, but have switched places in this final vote.

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