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I've got my copy of Slacker and am about halfway through.

BTW, I vote for the TV version of Fanny & Alexander, and I'm also very interested in The Celebration.

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Are the TV and cinema versions of F&A vastly different? The library in town only has the cinematic version. Will I be way out of the loop if I watch that one?


"The most important thing is that people love in the same way. Whether they are monarchists, republicans, or communists, they feel pain in the same way, as well as hatred, jealousy, fear, and fear of death. Whether you are a deeply religious man or an atheist, if you have a toothache, it hurts just the same." - Krzysztof Kieslowski

"...it seems to me that most people I encounter aren't all that interested in the arts. Most of the people who are my age ... appear to be interested in golf, fertilizer, and early retirement schemes.... I will stop caring passionately about music, books, and films on the day that I die, and I'm hoping for Top 100 album polls in the afterlife." - Andy Whitman

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Are the TV and cinema versions of F&A vastly different? The library in town only has the cinematic version. Will I be way out of the loop if I watch that one?

I'm jumping the gun, but I started watching the TV version of F&A last Friday. I've seen three of the four parts. Mark, Netflix lists the running time of the theatrical version as 188 minutes, while the TV version weighs in at a whopping 312 minutes! I wouldn't say you'd be "way out of the loop," but I've found that the TV version really enhances the characterization (especially F&A's father) and does a better job explaining the film's timeline. Plus, I've heard that a crucial scene at the very end is missing from the shorter version (EDIT: Finished the film, no big scene at the very end that wasn't in the shorter version. There's a new shorter scene earlier on, but it's not earth-shattering.)

Also, if we do end up watching the TV version, will we set up a discussion thread for each part, or will we wait and discuss the whole thing at once? If we wait, well, consider yourself warned: My posts might be incredibly long. smile.gif

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Are the TV and cinema versions of F&A vastly different? The library in town only has the cinematic version. Will I be way out of the loop if I watch that one?

Mark, Netflix lists the running time of the theatrical version as 188 minutes, while the TV version weighs in at a whopping 312 minutes! I wouldn't say you'd be "way out of the loop," but I've found that the TV version really enhances the characterization (especially F&A's father) and does a better job explaining the film's timeline. Plus, I've heard that a crucial scene at the very end is missing from the shorter version.

Well now, that's weird. The library's listing for the movie says it's the cinematic version - yet the running time is 312 minutes. So I guess it's the TV version after all. I just returned it without watching, 'cause I knew I wouldn't get to it before the due date, but I'll check it out again next week.

Oh, and, long posts, Diane? If I can fill page upon page ranting about Amazing Race, I think we can stand your thoughts on Bergman. biggrin.gif


"The most important thing is that people love in the same way. Whether they are monarchists, republicans, or communists, they feel pain in the same way, as well as hatred, jealousy, fear, and fear of death. Whether you are a deeply religious man or an atheist, if you have a toothache, it hurts just the same." - Krzysztof Kieslowski

"...it seems to me that most people I encounter aren't all that interested in the arts. Most of the people who are my age ... appear to be interested in golf, fertilizer, and early retirement schemes.... I will stop caring passionately about music, books, and films on the day that I die, and I'm hoping for Top 100 album polls in the afterlife." - Andy Whitman

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I have refused to read this thread except for the last three posts. Just got a copy of Slacker last night. This weekend I plan to watch it and Fanny and Alexander, which I have from Netflix (the TV version). But I've seen Fanny and Alexander before so I may actually be at the head that discussion!

Looking forward to going back and reading thru all of the thoughts here after I finish.

-s.

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In an interstellar burst, I am back to save the Universe.

Filmsweep by Persona. 2013 Film Journal. IlPersona.

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Glad to hear I'm not the only slacker

(pun partially intended -- and I know,

it's bad) who hasn't watched "Slacker"

yet. It has been sitting on my

entertainment center for over a week

now. I'm hoping to watch it either

tonight or tomorrow morning. I've

had some recent purchases arrive

that are also looking tempting. Ah,

so many movies, so little time.

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Have we decided for sure that we'll be discussing the TV version?

Please and I hope so. After taking a few days to contemplate it, it's just so much richer throughout. And there's a crucial, lengthy scene in part four (not what I referred to in my last post) that could lead to some very interesting discussion on Bergman's spiritual views

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My copy was shipped Tuesday, so I should have it soon. I intend to watch the shorter theatrical version first, and will be game for discussing both and either.


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I have refused to read this thread except for the last three posts.  Just got a copy of Slacker last night.

FWIW, I am a nerd. I thought I was posting to the Slacker thread. DOY! blush.gif

-s.


In an interstellar burst, I am back to save the Universe.

Filmsweep by Persona. 2013 Film Journal. IlPersona.

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When should we start discussing F&A?


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I thought you did great. You opened up the film to me. It's just a tough film to start with.

Regarding other potential discussion leaders, all that I think is needed is enthusiasm for the film. Nothing fancy.

Who's interested in a bit of discussion-facilitating? Diane, you seem to have really gotten into a Bergman vibe, and you've got a head start on us in working through it. You up for it?


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If Darren doesn't want to lead, then I'm game, though I'm going to be horribly swamped at work through next week. But still, I'd hate to pass this up. How many people have finished watching? When would we want to start the discussion? I'm fine with waiting just a bit (still hoping to revisit parts of the film).

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Awesome! You tell us when you'd be ready to invest a little time in discussion-shepherding. It's going to take me a little time to get through the TV version, and I know others haven't even got the discs yet.

Thanks.


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You tell us when you'd be ready to invest a little time in discussion-shepherding.  It's going to take me a little time to get through the TV version, and I know others haven't even got the discs yet.

Let's just say my life should be a whole lot better after next week (selfishly, I'm kind of glad the film is so long; that will buy me some time). But y'all can keep me updated and give me a nudge when you're ready.

And GrandPrixGator, I think you'll be OK. smile.gif

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I have the theatrical version to watch.  Will I be in left field if I dont see the TV version?

That's the version I have, because frankly, I don't have six hours to devote to it, although I'm sure it's worth it.

secret.gif The commentary track on the theatrical version describes what's been cut, if you find that kind of thing helpful.


There is this difference between the growth of some human beings and that of others: in the one case it is a continuous dying, in the other a continuous resurrection. (George MacDonald, The Princess and Curdie)

Isn't narrative structure enough of an ideology for art? (Greg Wright)

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